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Hi


On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 6:46 PM GMT +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:

>Hi Ken, all,
>
>Ken Foskey wrote:
>> On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 05:04 -0400, Daniel Carrera wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>I'm pretty confident that Sun does not own the name OpenOffice.org.
>>>I know for fact that a few months ago no one did. There was talk in
>>>the council about it, but I don't rember the resolution, so I
>>>hesitate.
>> 
>> 
>> OpenOffice.org is owned by the OOo foundation.
>
>I'm sorry to contradict you, but there is no OOo foundation. Sun said
>at the begining they build the OOo project that there will be a
>foundation, but nothing more happened actually.

Yes.  
>> 
>> The name cannot be used as endorsement of any organisation unless
>> approved by some process by OOo foundation.  (I have no idea what).
>
>The name was owned by Sun until one or 2 years, but this is not the
>case currently. The Community Council has been offered to get help in
>trademarking OOo in the US. From what I know we have accepted, the
>second step will be to internationalize the trademark application.

We have, and have been following the path to get trademark protection.
It takes some time.  

>> 
>> You can use OpenOffice.org in a non-endorsing fashion such as that
>> you provide support for OOo or programming assistance for, or author
>> documentation, ???  Something that means that your organisations
>> supports OOo in some manner but not the reverse which is only true
>> once endorsement is granted.
>
>I don't think it's good to use OpenOffice.org for another purpose than
>the project and the product, it could be very confusing. But Hristo,
>you should ask on the NLC how other have handled this issue. Some of
>us have NPO related to OOo in our NL project in order to help our
>marketing task, or even participate to pay for developments. The FR
>one for example is called Cusoon :)

Agreed.  In fact, as a general policy, we ought to suggest the use of
OpenOffice.org to the product and project, for the reason Sophie
mentioned, and we can place that suggestion in the relevant places.   

Hristo, if you want a nonprofit, there are several options. First, it
may make more sense to discuss this on [EMAIL PROTECTED], as others have
desired the same. Second, there is already Team OpenOffice.org e.V.,
which handles the overall project's nonprofit needs (donations).  But
each country is different, of course, and having local nonprofits is
feasible, especially for local events.

What is useful then is to re-use whatever templates for bylaws, etc.,
and experiences that others have gained. We can thus facilitate the
creation of similar such nonprofits, should the need arise.  But let's
discuss this on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Of course, there is the tradeoff: multiple nonprofits makes for some
confusion, but not, I think, too much.

thanks
louis
>
>Kind regards Sophie
>
Best,
Louis 

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