Joseph Roth on 31.05.2005 17:54 wrote:
Peter Reaper wrote:
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3. It is too cumbersome to add toolbar buttons that are not in the
standard set. The user should be able to just select a category on
the left (which BTW should mirror the MENU items) and then on the
right have a list of ALL functions in that category which he can
drag to the toolbar.
This would be personal preference, I'm comfortable with what it does.
No, it's a *measurable* decrease in efficiency, and therefore should
be fixed.
Sorry but that makes no sense. How often do you change your toolbar,
once? Twice?
So if you do a thousand things once or twice, is it stil lOK to have
these tasks be cumbersome and unintuitive? What if you really wanted to
do something, and couldn't figure out how, because the complexity is
beyond your capabilities. You'd go back to the other program you're more
familiar with...
7. Context menus need to be much more powerful (more items) and
CONTEXTUAL.
I'm wondering how difficult it would be to make them customizable in
a way similar to the toolbars. That way you can satisfy everyone,
those that don't need everything there and those that do.
That would be bloat. Make sensible defaults and don't try to make OOo
into a swiss army knife. At most have a *universal* option: "Simple
UI" and "Advanced UI". Offering convoluted options is often a co-out
for not thinking hard about UI issues.
Yes, but in a possible user field of millions who defines 'sensible
defaults'.
That's what (hopefully competent) *leaders* are for.
Now your UI options, in my opinion, would be bloat,
What "options" exactly are you refering to?
I'm
asking to customize context menus, you want a whole 'nother UI.
Not just "'nother", *better*. ;-)
There's more, but you can see that all this hype about OOo being
nearly as good as Word or even WordPerfect is just that: hype and
wishful thinking.
OOo 2.0 beta is a HUGE improvement over OOo 1.1.x :-)
Everyone has different ways of doing things, getting it right enough
to please everyone is impossible. I think they've done an outstanding
job on a very difficult task.
Let's just all be satisfied with mediocrity then, because it's just a
"different way of doing things". No, every aspect of OOo must be
evaluated on its merits. The *last* resort should be deciding on what
most users apparently want, after an objective analysis has failed
I've mentioned that I'm satisfied with what they've done cause it easily
gets the job done for me, yet you call it mediocrity,
No, I was pointing out that your method of justification justifies and
encourages mediocrity. I was not calling OOo mediocre.
so who's right?
Me, of course. :-P
Chances are, if they incorporate your ideas I can get used to that as
well.
You might even like them. ;-)
I'm willing to adjust my work habits for some freedom, how about
you? :)
You may be seeing things a bit too dramatically or black-white. I use
WordPerfect and don't think I'm giving up a significant portion of my
freedom. I see what you're saying, but in a differentiated world, there
is only so much usability people are willing to give up for a relatively
small gain in freedom. (remember, the evil MS Word isn't the only
alternative)
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Peter Reaper
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