Hello Enrique,

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:39:51 +0000
Enrique Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> Last but not least, I must agree that bugfixing depends on good QA
> team. I do not know the internals of this process in OOo. I do not
> know if currently QA members are Sun employers or volunteers. I do
> see a need for full-time (payed) people. But I do see this as a very
> good niche for volunteer work. And I would not dismiss the efforts
> dedicated by QA volunteers as "not writing code". I read Andrew
> Brown's article as meaning that any effort (even non-programming
> tasks) put into bugfixing and quality assurance is essential for
> overall quality and success of the software. Thus, volunteer work
> into QA is, to my eyes, as important as the core-programmers team. An
> essential, and community-contributed, part of OOo development. The
> article missed this point: programmers are not all.

[...]

I've explained in another message why I don't like Andrew Brown's
article and it is not only related to the content but also to the logic
approach of the article itself, which I consider, at least, not-so-well
thought.

Indeed, the "Issuezilla's Issue" is perhaps as old as the OOo project
and, IMHO, it doesn't depend on the open source method (as it may seem
from the article) but on the working flow used inside Sun
(StarDivision) and how to conciliate it with the external aid (QA,
patches, add-ons, whatever-you-want).

Nevertheless, the acknowledgment that the Project has a problem, it
doesn't mean the Project (or Open Source as a whole!) is a failure.

Regressions are common in x.0 series and priorities in solving bugs may
vary for several different reasons other than "limitations of open
source as a way of producing software" (I quote from the article).

Haven't proprietary software such a problem? I remember a bug in the
Italian version of Microsoft Office 95 that make the application crash
every time a document was spelled. And it was resolved only in MS
Office 97 (and it came back in earlier versions of MS Office 2000...)

If we (the Volunteer's Community) want to change the way the Project
goes we should stop saying: "Open Source sucks", "Sun sucks" or
"Volunteers sucks (or are missing)". We should provide a structure that
can assist Sun and other companies in an organized way. Everything
else, forgive me, it's only hot air, and I'm not talking about your
mail.

Regards,

Gianluca
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