On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Trever Fischer <[email protected]
> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 08:26 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> > Namaste, hakkers!
> >
> > I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2012-10-23 and that the minutes
> are posted. They are visible on the web at
> http://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/23-10-2012. I've also included them in
> this mail for reading at your leisure:
> >
> > {{Infobox_meeting
> > |time=7PM
> > |date=2012-10-23
> > |venue=1456 Riverside
> > |next=Meetings/30-10-2012
> > |previous=Meetings/16-10-2012
> > }}
> >
> >
> > = Agenda =
> >
> > * '''Note Taker:''' Dan Swick
> > * '''Moderator:''' Trever Fischer
> >
> > == Introduction and Names ==
> >
> > * Devin has a saw but doesn't play in a band.
> > * Paul gets ready for vacation.
> > * Hannah is an artisan.
> > * Wendy lives across from Penny, the master baker
> > * Dan gets annoyed at being called "The Man."
> > * Trever doesn't play Minecraft but runs a really nice server.
> > * Andrew is currently studying for an exam.
> >
> >
> > == Announcements ==
> >
> > * We has a bandsaws.
> > * We have parts trays, welding goggles.
> > * We have a label printer.
> > * Penny has started work on her wine-cork curtains.
> > * Saturday is board tour of 21 W. North Street. Will try to sign lease.
> Move-in Dec 1, opening day Jan 5.
> > * We need speakers for next month and December.
> > * Devin will do a welding class in December!
> > * Trever will do intro to Arduino, Jan 7.
> > * Paul will do a sharpening workshop.
> > * Trever worked on a project called "Spiff." Will be using for
> inventory, member payments, profile fields, database of all member stuff.
> Can be used to track training. Can schedule classes.
> > * QR codes are used for inventory, will take you straight to Spiff page.
> > * Devin brought Jello(R) shots.
> > * 2nd Wednesday of next month, intro to soldering.
> >
> > == Membership ==
> > * None.
> >
> > == Financial Report ==
> > * Funds in bank: $3138.37
> >
> > == Proposals ==
> >
> > <!--
> > Proposal format:
> >
> > * '''Proposal''' by --~~~~:
> >
> > Copy the above example verbatim, and place it immediately below this
> line. -->
> > '''SYN/HAK should be referred to as a makerspace and not a hacker
> space.''' by --[[Special:Contributions/76.188.197.165|76.188.197.165]]
> 23:57, 22 October 2012 (EDT): Markus Vogl (written by Penny Golightley)
> >
> > This reasons for this proposal is as follows:
> > People are intimidated by the word hacker. This has been observed by a
> few of our members when marketing the space and it was even enough of an
> issue to be brought up at our WSKU interview. The term makerspace is
> friendlier to the general population than hackerspace. Markus told us at
> the last meeting he attended that the Chicago makerspace said they had a
> lot more success with the term makerspace than hackerspace. This may be a
> better PR move.
> > ** Nobody will be forced to call it anything.
> >
> > * '''Alternative proposal''' by --[[User:Tdfischer|Tdfischer]] 00:13, 23
> October 2012 (EDT): We shouldn't have a tagline in any promotional
> material. Members should be free to call it what they want.
> >
> > ** Trever believes that the label is a false dichotomy. We shouldn't
> call it anything, so it should be called whatever we want. Take off the
> word "Hackerspace" out of logos and promotional material. Still up in the
> air, maybe "Make Share Create?" Noisebridge - "We spurn the key and lock."
> >
>
> I'm still very very torn about this decision. Hackerspaces are a very
> real thing. Those who want to come to a hackerspace know what one is. If
> not, they won't find the term scary at all after about 10 seconds of
> explanation. It wasn't 'till a few hours before this meeting that this
> was even an issue that needed discussing. I feel it went through way too
> fast, and I feel terribad for letting it be discussed at all without
> having the original writers of the proposal be there to defend their
> side. Additionally, this was a very significant thing. It should've been
> discussed for a few weeks before we change something that we were
> founded upon. My bad.
>
> For root's sake, its a word. I don't feel our audience includes "people
> who are scared of hacking" or "people who don't have an open mind". We
> shouldn't be afraid of whatever sigma "hackerspace" gives us. Instead,
> we should embrace it and prove the world that hacking is a Really Cool
> Thing that everybody does. There is a whole culture of collaboration
> surrounding that term and it is probably an even worse idea in terms of
> our public image to act scared about a word that means so much to
> people.
>
> For next week, I'm proposing that we disregard any actions that happened
> on Tuesday regarding these two proposals until we get a unanimous
> decision by more of the members than the handful that show up every
> week, and a total board vote. Trust me, it isn't just me who thinks the
> whole process and general idea was not excellent.
>
>
Hacking is not a crimeâ„¢


> >
> > * '''Membership Responsibilities/Titles/Perks''' by
> --[[User:Windcask|Windcask]] 14:05, 23 October 2012 (EDT): There's enough
> going on (and there will be lots more after we get the space) that it might
> be time to talk about membership responsibilities and holding those who
> hold them to account. All of us should be equally responsible for the
> success or failure of the space as an organization and not rely on certain
> higher-level members to move things along. Examples of duties: PR/Social
> Media presence, custodial duties, wiki spam cleanup, maintenance and
> inventory of equipment, speaking events, demonstrations to the public, etc.
> >
> > Holding to responsibilities could be accomplished by positive
> reinforcement of some kind (special titles, access to VPS services,
> higher-level trust in Syn/Hak electronic infrastructure, reduced
> memberships, etc.).
> > * "Being awesome to everyone" should be enough to motivate members to
> pitch in and help out. Leadership should take the lead in the sharing of
> responsibilities. Revisit later when it actually becomes a problem.
> >
> > * '''SysAdmin Meetings''' - Also, proposal for monthly/bi-monthly
> strategy meetings involving members and important non-members (relrod for
> example) to talk solely about website, social media, and space electronics
> administration (servers, lab workstations, door keys, etc.). Could be
> physical, could be conference call or IRC chat.
> > Passed - 60 minutes before meeting last week in month, get
> computer-inclined people involved.
> >
> > == Discussion Items ==
> >
> > * (Moved to discussion items) * '''Inventapalooza''' by Devin :
> Tagline/address gets figured out, but Devin will be working out a whole PR
> campaign and pay for it.
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