Ah, I shall stand corrected :) thank you.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Torrie Fischer
<tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote:

> On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:56:42 Omar Rassi wrote:
> > Good.
> >
> > I think the best solution concerning the thermostat at this time is to
> > simply turn the heat down if you're closing and then back up again when
> the
> > building is being occupied. There is no reason to turn it completely off
> > when no is there, we don't want things to freeze but we also don't want
> it
> > heated like someone's there when no one is there. Since there are no
> > regular hours at this time, a programmable thermostat is not a good
> > solution until regular hours start up again.
>
> My regular hours haven't stopped. I've been at the space after 6pm all this
> week, but literally nobody has shown up.
>
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > I spoke with Devin yesterday and he let me know he is working on
> resolving
> > > the hole in the ceiling.
> > >
> > > The holes in the walls could be filled with a cement OR use some "great
> > > stuff" spray foam. I would think doing this before painting would help.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Andrew Buczko
> <a4s...@dsprototyping.com>wrote:
> > >> Yeah, like Omar said, I stopped in at the new space once and it felt
> warm
> > >> and that was with the thermostat all the down at 50 :)
> > >>
> > >> Devin might have some cement/motar stuff that you can use to seal
> those
> > >> cracks.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Omar Rassi <omar.ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> Lets remember that this is by far a vast improvement to 21 W. North
> St.
> > >>> where you'd arrive during the winter and its 35 degrees inside the
> space
> > >>> and it would take the Perkins room hours to get to 60 degrees. The
> > >>> thermostat could keep the new space at a low enough temp to save
> money
> > >>> when
> > >>> no one is there but not low enough to be unbearable when you arrive,
> > >>> opening the space sets the temp to where our patrons will be warm and
> > >>> comfortable and then back down again when its closed. This is of
> course
> > >>> after we've patched all the places where we're losing tremendous
> amounts
> > >>> of
> > >>> heat. We also need to switch our gas utility bill to a budgeted plan
> > >>> where
> > >>> we pay the amount all year round to avoid HUGE winter usage bills.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Justin Herman <just...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > >>>> IMO heat being 50 is perfectly fine for working. If I am working on
> > >>>> something less physical I might opt to turn on a space heater and
> heat
> > >>>> my
> > >>>> small area more. I know other would prefer warmer temps and that is
> > >>>> fine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A programmable thermostat set to run from 4 till 8 is SO much better
> > >>>> than running it all the time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The thing is as we build membership we WILL be running the heater
> more.
> > >>>> Unfortunately we are heating empty spaces 16 hours a day. <insert
> sad
> > >>>> panda>>>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Byron Moran
> <byrondmo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>> The idea of a programmable thermostat is that it warms it up for
> you
> > >>>>> before you arrive. Tying it into the open / closed sign is the
> > >>>>> equivalent
> > >>>>> of buying a remote start for your car and turning it on as soon as
> you
> > >>>>> get
> > >>>>> in the car. It's 15 degrees out, and it would be really
> frustrating to
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>> to wait an hour every time you come in the space for it to be a
> > >>>>> reasonable
> > >>>>> temperature. I understand saving money, and something like a Nest
> will
> > >>>>> do
> > >>>>> that, but you have to expect some costs as far as heating, and be a
> > >>>>> ble to
> > >>>>> budget enough to keep your patrons warm and comfortable. Just an
> > >>>>> outside
> > >>>>> opinion.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Omar Rassi
> <omar.ra...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>> Good catch Justin! I can see why those would be hard to spot.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I know there was some talk about having a programmable thermostat
> but
> > >>>>>> realistically, keyholders come in and out at all random times and
> > >>>>>> sometimes
> > >>>>>> the open hours don't happen exactly on time or the person has a
> > >>>>>> sudden
> > >>>>>> thing come up so that would leak money at times too. Once we're
> > >>>>>> settled in,
> > >>>>>> a solution may be to tie the temperature setting to opening and
> > >>>>>> closing the
> > >>>>>> space so when you click on "open space" thermostat is set to X
> > >>>>>> degrees.
> > >>>>>> Click close space, it goes back down to X degrees
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Justin Herman
> <just...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hey folks,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I stopped in the new space to drop a few things off and I
> decided I
> > >>>>>>> would check a few repairs out.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> First, The work that has been completed looks awesome. It is
> really
> > >>>>>>> coming together. The team that preformed the move really got a
> lot
> > >>>>>>> done.
> > >>>>>>> Not enough thanks can be given to the people who have taken a
> blight
> > >>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>> Summit St. and made it into a functional space.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Unfortunately I see a few issues (that may or may not be know to
> > >>>>>>> all)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. The space is heated but it seemed warm. This is cool when
> hacking
> > >>>>>>> is happening BUT expensive when it is not. We MUST work a plan
> > >>>>>>> together to
> > >>>>>>> deal with lowering the heat when the space is not occupied. (I
> did
> > >>>>>>> not know
> > >>>>>>> where the thermostat was to turn it down so I did not make any
> > >>>>>>> actions for
> > >>>>>>> this.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2. Above the back 40's heater is a GIANT HOLE. It appears to be a
> > >>>>>>> vent hole and may already have a plan to be resolved BUT at the
> > >>>>>>> current
> > >>>>>>> moment $ is flowing out the space. As the heater runs heat flows
> out
> > >>>>>>> and to
> > >>>>>>> the ceiling and right next to the heater vent is this 8-12 inch
> > >>>>>>> hole. This
> > >>>>>>> must be fixed ASAP.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 3. The front garage door has large leaks of air. Replacement of
> the
> > >>>>>>> door would be a more expensive project but buying weather trim
> and
> > >>>>>>> putting
> > >>>>>>> up a plastic door (similar to the common space-back 40) would
> help
> > >>>>>>> considerably.)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 4. There are numerous holes in the mortar that need filled.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> When I was in the space previously I didn't see many of these
> issues
> > >>>>>>> as it was dark outside but in the light of day they become VERY
> > >>>>>>> clear.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I have an album of pictures in an album I hope these help to
> clear
> > >>>>>>> things up.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> SynHak -
> > >>>>>>>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bxw1KFspeHRrUHQzSFlfZ1Z1bzQ&;
> > >>>>>>> usp=sharing
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Once again GREAT JOB!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Much Love
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Justin
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Byron D Moran
> > >>>>> Software Development Consultant
> > >>>>> (330)992-9766
> > >>>>>
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