On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:27:50 Torrie Fischer wrote:
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:05:08 Craig Bergdorf wrote:
> > or, if it's $200 and you know for a fact the space needs it right now,
> > just
> > grudgingly buy it and hold mild anger towards those that said it wasn't
> > needed (sorry, in a mood).  Unless (crosses fingers) this is meant as a
> > way
> 
> > to test a new, functional system for the space approving purchases, if so:
> I would really like to develop a finance committee for the space but I do
> not have the bandwidth, so I'm taking a very brute force approach to it by
> asking discuss@ for expenditures.
> 
> > Is there a budget for the space that includes consumables like toilet
> > paper
> > that any member is allowed to see / comment on?  What percentage of the
> > remainder of that does this $200 represent?
> 
> Yes, thats the $50 maintenance budget.
> 
> https://synhak.org/wiki/Maintenance_Budget
> 
> This $200 is an investment into our monthly AWS budget, which is a separate
> entry that gets wrapped up into accounts payable, which is currently
> estimated at $435. This $200 would therefore be 31% of the estimated $635
> total, should this be agreed upon.
> 
> > As I mentioned before, I think this is a great idea, and the lower price
> > tag just makes it better.  I also have mentioned we should be paying more
> > for internet so we can supplement our real host with some old fashioned
> > house file servers (and a webcam/open sign/phone that doesn't require so
> > much maintenance).
> 
> Open sign and the webcam don't need much maintenance once they're configured
> and left untouched. The recent synhak.org infrastructure rebuilding I
> finished that involves disposable web servers removes a lot of the failure
> points we previously suffered with the system. I was hoping to work on
> removing a bunch more failure points on the client side, but not today.
> 
> > If a call for comments is up, my only concern is one of not knowing if the
> > amount we have for monthly improvements has included all the consumables I
> > would think higher priority (such as toilet paper).  I am also surprised
> > that there is a penny left in this fund after 2 months of building.
> 
> Most of the buildout was in the form of membership dues credit. For some
> reason, nobody has actually asked for any reimbursement yet. I thought I was
> very transparent on how much money we had available for reimbursement, how
> much membership credit was available, and what the difference was between
> credit and reimbursement.
> 
> SYNHAK, Inc has so far spent $21.29 on four floodlights, and $22.15 on some
> kitchen supplies. That is it. I'm serious.

For giggles, here's our checking account from December 1st 2013 to today:

http://i.imgur.com/z3rOjib.png

I'm happy to explain any entries :)

> 
> Heck, I've had $150 in SYNHAK reimbursement cash on my person every single
> day I was at the space over the last two months.
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Torrie Fischer
> 
> <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 03, 2014 11:35:51 Justin Herman wrote:
> > > > I agree with Andrew,
> > > > 
> > > > I hold several concerns about this proposal and think we need to
> > > > evaluate
> > > > the needs of the infrastructure.
> > > 
> > > If you've got "several concerns", what are those concerns? I too can
> > > claim
> > > to
> > > be "concerned" about something and not actually say why.
> > > 
> > > Instead of doing any useful synhak work today or tomorrow, I'll be
> > > producing a
> > > technical report that shows why this investment will benefit the hacker
> > > community we aim to support.
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Buczko
> > > 
> > > <a4s...@dsprototyping.com>wrote:
> > > > > WAT?
> > > > > 
> > > > > first you said it was $1.60
> > > > > Then $16.40
> > > > > Now it's $123.10
> > > > > 
> > > > > ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Torrie Fischer
> > > 
> > > <tdfisc...@hackerbots.net>wrote:
> > > > >> Previous thread:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003393.html
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I'd like to propose that we spend $200 to reserve the two t1.micro
> > > > >> instances
> > > > >> in that proposal for the purpose of web servers.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Our current AWS expenditure is still ~$80/mo. Spending $200 up
> > > > >> front
> > > 
> > > will
> > > 
> > > > >> reduce that bill by $16.40/mo and keep our infrastructure expenses
> > > > >> low
> > > > >> for the
> > > > >> next three years. Thats an extra $16.40 we can invest elsewhere
> > > > >> with
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> break
> > > > >> even point of 12 months.
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