Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Douglas Knudsen Sat, 01 Jul 2006 10:43:08 -0700

you have some really long running requests.  As I said before, look in
the server log in the cfadmin tool, long running requests are
indicated there.  Look to the files indicated in these entries as
problem spots needing tuning.  SeeFusion is a great tool also
indicating these things.


Also make SURE you have
Timeout Requests after (seconds)
set to on, its typically best practise to have this set to 30 seconds
as a start.
Also make SURE you have
Log slow running requests longer then __ seconds
set to on and set ti to say 20 seconds to start.  If this is not set
to on, the above log will be useless to you as long running requests
will not be logged!

Now, go read up on ColdFusion performance topics.  This is a great
summary blog posting here
http://coolskool.blog-city.com/random_collection_of_cfmx_performance_tuning_resources.htm
Especially understand the explanations of request timeouts,
simultaneaous threads, and such.  Forta's advanced CF book has
coverage of this topic also FYI.

Your subject line has the word REBOOT in it, hence why we are
responding with much about your system.  To me this appears to be a
ColdFsuin perfomance issue.  You are rebooting the server to try and
attack this issue, which rarely in my experience will.  In most cases,
its bad CF code somewhere that causes issues.


DK

On 7/1/06, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Looks like it wont let go of some requests. And it pegs out JRUN.exe when
that happens
---------------------------------
I did KILL's to the Running Requests to keep things from hanging
---------------------------------
Using the Counters I found that it takes between
900~2,500,000 ms to process a request.
Once the request que is down to 0~1 it only takes 400~2000ms to process and
keeps it under control.
---------------------------------
Just noticed that AVGW.exe was at 50% and has been active all this time but
I didn't think it should ever be that high.
Looking into it I found it to be AntiVirusGrisoftWatch file. I'm removing it
and rebooting.
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SeeFusion 3.3:           Server Status          Configuration
Counters                Debug Output            Stack Trace
SeeFusion Log

SeeFusion Server Status Help
Server: rcga01ts01
Updated         Memory [GC]     Uptime  Request
Averages:       Last Sec        Last 10 Sec     Last 60 Sec     Since
Startup         Query
Averages:       Last Sec        Last 10 Sec     Last 60 Sec     Since
Startup
Jun 30, 2006 9:59:04 PM         108m/132m       26:33.9         0, avg 0ms
0/sec, avg 0ms  0/sec, avg 0ms  13      0, avg 0ms      0/sec, avg 0ms
0/sec, avg 0ms  0
8 Running Requests
Request
Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
QryTime Longest (or Active) Query
SQL
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
        193.47.80.89    @--ms   1,485,015ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-116_68_P4539C76.cfm[Stack][Kil
lStop]
        72.30.98.161    @--ms   1,428,937ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/AIR_CUT-OFF_VALVE_SET_KAWASAK_P5285.cfm[Stack][KillS
top]
        72.30.103.147   @--ms   1,417,344ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/VL800_W114.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
        72.30.111.147   @--ms   1,383,391ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_CALIPER_KIT_SUZUKI_ACS-_P6131C292.cfm[Stack][K
illStop]
        68.142.249.162  @--ms   1,366,469ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Dellorto_PHM_Carburetor_W19C2.cfm[Stack][KillStop]
        68.159.143.14   @--ms   1,349,750ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=2180[Stack][KillStop]
        72.30.133.215   @--ms   1,349,734ms     --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/MIKUNI_AIR_JET_B42_55_140_P2165C13.cfm[Stack][KillSt
op]
        72.30.110.93    @--ms   93,266ms        --      --ms    --ms,-- rows
Recent Requests
Request
Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
QryTime Longest Query
SQL
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-01:40.1        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],906ms    10,922ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
-01:51.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],000ms     4,000ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
-01:55.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],250ms     8,265ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-02:03.3        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],079ms    10,079ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-357_115_P5431C77.cfm
-02:13.4        68.142.250.93   [EMAIL PROTECTED],765ms   114,765ms       --    
  --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=5449
-04:08.2        72.30.216.30    [EMAIL PROTECTED],734ms     7,750ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=8844
-04:16.0        72.30.102.76    [EMAIL PROTECTED],047ms     4,047ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-04:20.0        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],922ms    14,922ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_SHOES_HONDA_333_P6245C286.cfm
-06:24.3        72.30.132.211   [EMAIL PROTECTED],281ms    31,297ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/product2.cfm?Product_ID=23
-06:58.4        72.30.107.88    [EMAIL PROTECTED],719ms    41,735ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/sendlink.cfm?Product_ID=9039
-07:47.3        72.30.111.87    [EMAIL PROTECTED],421ms     1,437ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm
-08:03.8        193.47.80.83    [EMAIL PROTECTED],061,735ms 1,061,750ms     --  
    --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/manual_petcock_replacement_kit_W133.cfm
-24:45.8        68.142.251.144  [EMAIL PROTECTED],812ms     6,766ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
Slow Requests
Request
Completed       From    Response        TotalTime       #Queries
QryTime Longest Query
SQL
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-01:40.1        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],906ms    10,922ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_Carburetors_C8.cfm
-01:55.1        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],250ms     8,265ms --      --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-02:03.4        144.9.8.21      [EMAIL PROTECTED],079ms    10,079ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/KEIHIN_MAIN_JET_99101-357_115_P5431C77.cfm
-02:13.5        68.142.250.93   [EMAIL PROTECTED],765ms   114,765ms       --    
  --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/index.cfm
-04:20.1        206.163.236.68  [EMAIL PROTECTED],922ms    14,922ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/BRAKE_SHOES_HONDA_333_P6245C286.cfm
-06:24.4        72.30.132.211   [EMAIL PROTECTED],281ms    31,297ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/product2.cfm?Product_ID=23
-06:58.5        72.30.107.88    [EMAIL PROTECTED],719ms    41,735ms        --   
   --ms
--ms,-- rows
www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Mikuni_C6.cfm
-08:03.8        193.47.80.83    [EMAIL PROTECTED],061,735ms 1,061,750ms     --  
    --ms
--ms,-- rows
        Help
SeeFusion 3.3:           Server Status          Configuration
Counters                Debug Output            Stack Trace
SeeFusion Log


SeeFusion 3.3 Copyright (c)2004-2006 Webapper Services, LLC Licensed to: 2hr
Time-Limited evaluation version (2 servers)

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:19 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Load in seefusion and see what's happening. www.seefusion.com

Remember to wrap your database calls with seefusion so it can see the db
calls.

John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

JRUN hogging again. Cant get to any CF run pages.
JRUN.exe is using almost 180,000k ram. Is this normal?
Averaging 50~75% processor resources.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

No virus. All legit processes.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Reil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive.
Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the
local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load
instead of erroring out on JRUN.

No browser warnings in event viewer.
Not multi homed.

It does not load any network critical services.
It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and
MSSQL.

I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will
google them for potential viruses.
DLLHOST.exe
CTFMON.exe
CSRSS.exe
LLSSRV.exe
LSASS.exe
Pvlsvr.exe
Swagent.exe
Swsoc.exe
Swstrtr.exe
All other processes make sense to me.

I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was
99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98%
idle.
Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window
of the task manager where previously it only showed one...

Will look at the logs after the AV file check.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a
multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot.  Robert, is it taking
long to boot up or taking long to shutdown?  Note a reboot requires
both of these actions.  I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown
with your description of the CPU load.

Could be many things.  Load, third-part connections such as databases,
or just bad code can cause these things.  Check out the logs in the
CFAdmin tool.  Look in the server one and look for entries with
'request timeout' mentioned.

DK

On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is your web server also a domain controller?
>
> John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and
> MySQL with CF6
>
> Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to
> get the CF site working.
>
> I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it
> to host the site.
>
> Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would
> return a JRUN timeout error.
>
> Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started
properly.
> The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on
JRUN.exe
> that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was
> looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity
> should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a
> Browser F5 Refresh.
>
> You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing?
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
>
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