I know, amazing, right? ;-)

-dhs


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On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Steven Ross wrote:

IMHO easier to understand and code... comparing to java, ruby, php (which I have worked in). However I agree with you that if you have been developing in X language for so long that it is probably easier for you than a new language (as anything new is). I would say with all things being equal though. CF is pretty damn easy to understand and code...

you? play the devils advocate? haha

On Jan 14, 2008 1:49 PM, Dean H. Saxe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
FWIW, I was playing devil's advocate...


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On Jan 14, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Dean H. Saxe wrote:

Easier to understand and code for who? Some people enjoy coding in other languages and aren't looking for ease of use...

-dhs


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On Jan 14, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Steven Ross wrote:

Hehe... maybe CF just needs updated marketing:

Learn Coldfusion. Get a Job. Enjoy it.

seems like a good marketing plan if you know any out of work java or php folks, or those that hate their job. Come learn CF: its easier to understand and code. Lots of people looking for CF developers...



On Jan 14, 2008 12:30 PM, Charlie Arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, if I can play devil's advocate for a moment, it's a nice thought (the doubling effect) but in reality the number of people who read CF blogs (let alone any one) is pretty small, so while we can hope that word could spread,
it seems we should not get our hopes up of seeing hundreds, tens, or
honestly even thousands of new CF developers. :-)

I mean, sure, it could happen, either by this effort or just naturally. CF sales and interest are definitely picking up, so no one should read my note as being anything less than enthusiastic about it, as always. Just seems that a note of pragmatism is in order. No offense intended toward John (or Sean), of course. And maybe you meant the "doubling" as a somewhat tongue in cheek suggestion. Anyway, thanks for sharing the link. Good thoughts (and
LOTs of comments already).

/charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:26 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Convert a non-CF developer to CF

Sean Corfield did a very interesting blog entry last week about the
marketing and growth of the CF community. It's well worth the read..

http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Common_ColdFusion_Arg
uments

Sean gives a little challenge or new year's resolution if you like at the
end. Simply convert a non-CF developer to CF. Pretty simple really.
Apparently there's about 400,000 CF developers out there these days. If we
each did our part, we could easily double that.

John Mason



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