On Feb 18, 2008 10:11 AM, Peyton Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, I believe I already have Firebug: when Firefox tells me I have an > error (lower righthand corner) I can click on that and see lots of info > about it; and which I click on the '^' in that panel, it morphs into a > window with 'Firebug' in its title. But I don't see how that helps me with > navigation in the actual code I'm writing. Or do you mean navigation as in > exploring the document while I'm debugging? > > Second, Doug, which of those frameworks would you recommend? In its > documentation, Adobe refers to Spry from time to time... >
I'm not really a JS expert anymore these days, but Spry seems pretty cool to me, has that neat tag like approach akin to CF. YUI Steven mentioned is pretty good too. Spry is delivered to you by Adobe, check labs.adobe.com, DW CS3 has Spry stuff built in too. I seem to recall the CF8's Ajax stuff uses YUI, but again I'm a bit behind in this area of late as I'm drowning in Flex Koolaid :) > > I still have my question about how to re-write my particular functions (or > properties to be precise) Firefox-style. Thanks for the info that parentNode > = parentElement, but what about the other two? > > Incidentally, to most of you write web pages full of code like 'if IE to > this, if NS do that'? I hope there's a way to escape from that! I've had a > free ride on this so far since all my websites belonged to an INTRAnet > inside a NYC goverment agency which standardized on IE... > This is precisely what a framework will do for you, handle the differences for you. DK > > Or is that what a framework would encapsulate? And if I use that, would I > be able to read my own code? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Knudsen > Sent: Feb 18, 2008 9:55 AM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Another Question From Rip Van Winkle > > I suggest looking at using a framework. This would be a Good Thing as it > would encapsulate these issues for you. Frameworks for JS include Spry, > Dojo, JQuery, and the list could go on and on. > > DK > > On Feb 18, 2008 9:44 AM, Steven Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First go get firebug for firefox... that will help you with the dom > > navigation. > > Firefox parentElement = parentNode > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Peyton Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello again from the CF5 programmer trying to catch up. > > > > > > I always used to write for Internet Explorer, and did so again after > > > my return to programming a few months ago, resulting in what is by now a > > > rather complex site. Many CF (and other internet-based) programmers have > > > told me since then that I should have written for Firefox, and I now wish > > > I > > > had, because of it's debugging abilities. But... > > > > > > How easy will it be to convert my existing code to run on Firefox? > > > Specifically, there are three functions I'm making heavy use of: > > > > > > 1. getElementById > > > 2. parentElement > > > 3. children[] > > > > > > According to my latest DOM book (O'Reilly, published 1998 - yes, I > > > know I need a new one) none of these exists in Netscape (same as Firefox, > > > right?). And sure enough I get error messages at least with the first one > > > (I > > > never get past there to the others). So my question is: > > > > > > What is the Firefox way to do each of them? (According to my O'Reilly > > > book, document.all[] doesn't exist in Netscape, either.) > > > > > > One catch is: I would very much like to avoid giving unique names to > > > everything, for two reasons: > > > > > > 1. There are lots and lots of them. This is a roll-my-own HIERARCHICAL > > > grid of sorts with buttons to insert and delete new rows on both of two > > > levels. > > > > > > 2. All my update code makes heavy use of the fact that, when items in > > > a form have the same name (as they do in each successive row in my grid), > > > CF > > > sends up the values as a comma-delimited list of values which I then loop > > > through. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Peyton > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > > > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > > > > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > > > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > > > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Steven Ross > > web application & interface developer > > http://blog.stevensross.com > > [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] 267-482-4364 > > [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software <http://www.figleaf.com> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > > List hosted by FusionLink <http://www.fusionlink.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > Douglas Knudsen > http://www.cubicleman.com > this is my signature, like it? > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software <http://www.figleaf.com> > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by FusionLink <http://www.fusionlink.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com > > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?falogin.edituserform > > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? ------------------------------------------------------------- Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -------------------------------------------------------------
