I've been on Macs since before I worked with Cheyenne, and being able
to test between multiple systems and browsers helps highlight
bothersome code much faster, and by doing it in more compliant
browsers (Safari, FF, even IE7) first then makes the hacks for IE6
more manageable.
As far as using both environments, I actually use Parallels right now,
testing VMware, to host multiple instances of Windows XP & Vista as
well as Ubuntu. That way I can open whatever environment I need to
test in. I start with a nice clean imaged install and add on top of
that. You can use less instances if you are not testing secure sites
by using the stand-alone versions of IE. However, if you run say a
WinXP vm with IE6 installed, the IE7 standalone can not run over
https. That's why you might end up with more instances than ya thought
at first.
Definitely try out all the Native mac software first though, the
integration is much better and things like QuickView in the finder to
make sure you're really opening the correct huge file is nice (click
on a file, hit spacebar, it shows you contents quickly via the
Desktop, Leopard/10.5 only). Textmate and BBedit are great editors
when you aren't in Eclipse. You'll want Adium for messaging, Fugu is a
free sftp client from the UMich folks. VLC will play any of your video
files you want to check out (including wmvs without Flip4Mac for
Quicktime).
The Adobe license will switch, you may just need to call them up to do
it for the cross-grade/upgrade option. There's also some good
Dashboard widgets for quick status checks on your servers and remote
sites being up. I also usually put full released browser updates in
my /Applications folder and any betas in my user/Applications so that
I can have multiple versions easily without renaming anything--like
when I need FF2 extensions like webdev versus speed and app testing
which I can perform in FF3 betas.
And of course you can get the CF8 dev edition working on your mac
side, so makes local debugging very easy if you aren't connected to
push to a stage server (quick overview at http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/27/Running-ColdFusion-8-on-Leopard)
**Michael
On Apr 11, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Dusty Hale wrote:
I suppose all the Mac users still test there apps on Windows based
machines (since that is what most of the target audience uses)? I
would assume I would do this using the VMWare? Is the what the
developers that use Mac do?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Singer
Sent: 04/11/2008 1:46 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Doing CF development on a MAC
I'm using iMac at work and MacBook at home. No need for a PC anymore.
--Sam Singer
On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Derrick Peavy wrote:
Don't know about the license switch - if you can, that's freaking
awesome!
In short, I see no draw back to developing on the mac for any
language aside from ASP (simply because you can't run and IIS/ASP
server on your mac natively). The mac even has Ruby, PHP, MySQL,
Apache, Python, Perl ready to use out of the box. I believe the
basic OS comes with developer tools as well (X Code), though I
might be wrong there.
I agree with the comments here and based on experience in helping
other switch - run it all on the native OS you are switching too.
Makes the most sense and trust me - the gain you get in
productivity far outweighs any costs.
Some app tips - best text editor hands down is BBEdit. If you
actually know the language you are coding in, you probably like a
good text editor anyway. What may throw you however, is that when
you first launch it it looks like a simple, plain blank document
and you wonder, WTF? But the program, like the Mac OS follows a
philosophy of getting everything out of your way except for the
document. So, it's up to you to decide which palates you want to
show on a regular basis, etc.,
Best FTP - Transmit. Yes, it costs $30 (I think). But nothing on
mac or Windows can touch it.
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On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Dusty Hale wrote:
Derrick yes that is exactly the kind of information I need. My
hope was that I would not have to run all the Adobe software on
the Windows OS and it sounds like that is the case but I guess I
need to get the Mac version of all the software. So the question
might be can I upgrade my CS2 products to Mac Version CS3
products? Andrew's response indicated I might be able to do that
so I am going to do more research and/or contact Adobe about that
today. I'll share the outcome.
Dusty
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Derrick Peavy
Sent: 04/11/2008 12:44 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Doing CF development on a MAC
Dusty:
The software will NOT install on both. You can run it all under
Windows through VMWare, but it sounds like what you will end up
doing is running everything on the PC and nothing on the mac.
I develop on a mac. I use BBEdit (text editor) for code, safari/
firefox for browser testing, and either 1) upload CFM files to
stage server (mimic of production server) or 2) Run locally under
CF or Blue Dragon.
So, where is the need for the PC? (BTW - that's not flame bait,
that's just my approach).
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Derrick Peavy
Sales and Web Services
CollegeClassifieds.com
http://www.collegeclassifieds.com
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On Apr 11, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Dusty Hale wrote:
OK this is probably a good question for Dean!
I am now highly considering getting a mac to further develop the
creative aspects of what I do. I understand that some developers
have moved to Mac and use the VMWare to run windows applications.
My questions are:
If developing on a Mac would I install things like Photoshop and
Illustrator on the Mac OS or would I be doing it through the
VMWare on Windows. I currently have the Adobe CS2 Web Bundle
suite running on my pc under Win XP so I am not even sure yet
that the software I have will run on the Mac OS (I have to check
on that).
I plan to upgrade to the full Adobe Master Collection with all
the great new CS3 tools so I wonder if I have to order it for Mac
or Windows or if the software package will install on either. I
am hoping either :-) ... I am researching now but would
appreciate any quick answers if any one has time.
Thanks,
Dusty
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