You mean free as free beer and free as freedom:-) I wouldn't know as I don't know portuguese, but I can talk for Italian which has 2 distinct words. Knowing that portuguese is latin derivative I'd expect that to be distinct as well.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Daniel Pocock <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 11/07/16 15:26, Stefan Umit Uygur wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Carsten Agger <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Den 11-07-2016 kl. 11:39 skrev Daniel Pocock: > > > > > > > > How do you feel about using the more verbose "free and open > source > > software"? > > > > I like that better and often use it myself as a kind of compromise. > > > > > > I am not really sure if that verbose is appropriate, even though I'd > > love to use myself. It all depends on the relationship/connection > > between FSFE and FSF. Because FSF would never like the idea nor approve > > the usage of the verbose open source, or better, Stallman would never > > approve knowing him:-) > > > > Personally I think we should break this ice between Free Software and > > Open Source as to me they are nothing else but father and child to each > > other. > > > > > > > > Sadly, the term "free" is often misused and the wider public is > not > > always aware what we are talking about. > > > > > > However, that is a problem which might be better solved by education. > > > > A couple of years ago, when I visited Brazil for the first time > > (I've been there only twice, so don't want to sound too > > well-travelled) I was very pleasantly surprised that ordinary > > people, i.e. non-technical social activists, immediately understood > > what I meant when I said I was working with "free software" without > > me having to explain. > > > > That's because the Lula government and the Ministry of Culture under > > Gilberto Gil did *a lot* to promote the concept and to promote the > > idea of community-created and -used software, not least among the > > social movements. > > > > Free software has not, of course, won a convincing victory in > > Brazil, but it just goes to show that it *is* possible. > > > > > > I can confirm this as I was part of a massive group who were engaged by > > Brazilian government at that time (2006) to setup government IT > > infrastructure (i.e. government institutions, schools, etc.), where > > Gilberto Gil dispatched his staff all over Europe to get people who can > > help in doing that. > > > > So it is a great example indeed and the only country that fully engaged > > on Free Software. > > > > > > Does Portugese have distinct words for "free of charge" and "free as in > liberty", like French and Spanish? If so, that is possibly just as > significant as the education factor. > > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion >
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