On 04/11/14 14:38, Bastien Guerry wrote:
Jarek Lipski <[email protected]> writes:

I don't think idea with votes / tokens is good. I mean, yes, in
general it makes sense (I was thinking about the same in
BountyFunding), but on the other hand it increases complexity and
fixes the donation amount.

What do you mean by "fixes the donation amount"?

I mean that you must always donate 10 euro. I though you don't want to allow donations during the event, because then you will need conversion between votes and donations, etc. Perhaps I misunderstood - it would be easier to discuss it interactively.

Why not make the entry fee obligatory for everyone to cover our costs?
Do you think it can discourage participants?

I don't think so, especially if the registration fees are donations
that we will redistribute as is to FLOSS projects.

My idea is that the fee pays for event only (food, drinks). Of course if there is extra money it will be redistributed.

During the event the participants will be able to either donate any
amount to specific software and record it on hackadon website or
donate to the campaign in general and trust the other participants
with choice of projects.

We want to keep these two options plus add another one: let a user
give to X, Y and Z by redirecting "tokens" into boxes X, Y and Z.
Louis-David already did this, it adds a lot of fun and a sense of
participation on the decision process, which is good IMO.

And complexity and confusion that I don't like;) The money itself serves as tokens - I don't understand their purpose.

This way we separate event hosting and fundraising.

This still feels two complicated.  Both sponsors and users should only
pay once, and they should pay for "supporting FLOSS and participate to
a nice party where we redirect donations and talk about FLOSS/money."

OK, if you want users to pay only once, we can make minimum fee of 10 euro plus anything extra donated to the campaign (not user id meetup / eventbrite supports this sort of thing)? Then maybe it's true we don't need a fundraising campaign, just a generic donate button.

For now I'm leaning toward the first solution because it seems
clearer and more "agile" to me, but Jarek you spent a lot of time
on the campaign so I feel bad wasting your time.

Don't worry about time spent on campaign - we can probably re-use it
as different form of communication.

Yes indeed!

Yes, we need to decide ASAP, that's why I think we should keep the
campaign as it is to redistribute money among projects and create
event entry fee to cover hosting costs.

Let's wait for other feedback until we make a decision tomorrow.
I still wait for Mozilla confirmation for Dec 11th, so we have a
bit more time.


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