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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Ira Abramov <hama...@ira.abramov.org>wrote: > מארק-דאון במקום XML? :-) > > בכל מקרה, יהיה נחמד אם יהיה מקום לתגובות. אני משתמש בוורדפרס כבר שנים ולא > היו לי איתו בעיות אבטחה, הן נסגרות די מהר כשהן מתגלות. זה לא מדאיג אותי. > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Amir Eldor <amir.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> שלום לנוכחים, >> >> אני בטוח שמישהו שמתחזק את האתר של ה־PHP וה־XHTML הסטטיים ישמח לבנות מערכת >> פשוטה לעריכת התכנים. נכון שלומי? :) >> לא בדקתי את התוכנה שאלעד הציע אבל זה נשמע מגניב. >> >> אמיר >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Ira Abramov <hama...@ira.abramov.org>wrote: >> >>> אני חושב שמישהו צודק. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Lior Kaplan <kaplanl...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> אני שמח לראות שאתה שומר על המסורת של לקרוא לי "מישהו". >>>> >>>> המטרה במעבר לוורדפרס היא לא טכנית אלה ניהולית - אני רוצה >>>> לאפשר לאנשים שלא מכירים קוד (ולא צריכים להכיר) לעזור בתחזוקת >>>> האתר. ממש לא בא לי להתעסק עם המרה של נתונים למבנה XMLי >>>> כדי שיתאים לתבנית שהאתר דורש. >>>> >>>> במקום ש-linux.org.il יכיל את המידע הכי עדכני יש לנו אתר שלא ממש >>>> עומד בדרישה של להוות שער לקהילה ולעסקים בארץ. >>>> >>>> ולא ממש איכפת לי אם יקח לעוד עוד שניה לעלות, העיקר שהמידע שיוצג >>>> יהיה רלוונטי. >>>> >>>> קפלן >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlo...@shlomifish.org>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> recently someone requested me to implement something on >>>>> http://www.linux.org.il/ and after I was distracted and explained the >>>>> fact that >>>>> it is a custom PHP site that parses XML at run-time and converts it to >>>>> HTML, >>>>> and that there is no apparent need why it should be a dynamic site, he >>>>> said he >>>>> thinks he'll just install WordPress there and allow people to edit the >>>>> site. >>>>> >>>>> I think it's a bad idea. As opposed to WordPress and similar CMSes, >>>>> static XHTML >>>>> sites that are generated from templates have the following advantages: >>>>> >>>>> 1. They are more secure. WordPress had a very bad track record of >>>>> security >>>>> vulnerabilities in the past, and other PHP (see >>>>> http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/php/ ) and MySQL (see >>>>> http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/mysql/ )-based content >>>>> management systems are usually prone to other problems like that. >>>>> Please don't focus exclusively on this point. >>>>> >>>>> 2. They are much more reliable than a dynamic site. A static XHTML >>>>> site is >>>>> generated from templates which is maintained in a version control >>>>> system >>>>> (nowadays it can be a distributed one, where every copy has the entire >>>>> history), and can be built and reuploaded at any time. The PHP and >>>>> MySQL CMSes >>>>> tend to get offline (often permanently - see the links I gave) due to >>>>> many >>>>> problems, and then restoring them is incredibly painful. Some >>>>> MediaWiki site >>>>> that are now offline are: >>>>> >>>>> * http://perl.net.au/ >>>>> >>>>> * http://wiki.perl.org.il/ >>>>> >>>>> * http://wiki.osdc.org.il/ >>>>> >>>>> * http://www.iglu.org.il/wiki/ >>>>> >>>>> 3. They can be made more structured than a CMS that just gives you a >>>>> big HTML >>>>> editing textarea, where you often have to duplicate markup, or in the >>>>> case of >>>>> MediaWiki, something much more vile and unstructured. >>>>> >>>>> 4. They are faster to load and consume less resources than a >>>>> server-side-scripted CMS. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Naturally, dynamic CMSes have some advantages such as the ability to >>>>> add >>>>> user-generated content, and they might be more friendly to laymen, but >>>>> this is >>>>> not relevant to http://www.linux.org.il/ which is a static portal. >>>>> >>>>> If you're looking for a solution that combines some of the best of >>>>> both worlds >>>>> look at ikiwiki : http://ikiwiki.info/ ; >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikiwiki . >>>>> This is a wiki engine that stores its pages as files in a distributed >>>>> version >>>>> control system. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Shlomi Fish >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ >>>>> What does "Zionism" mean? - http://shlom.in/def-zionism >>>>> >>>>> No one calls Xena the warrior princess “Zeena” to her face and >>>>> survives. >>>>> Luckily for you, she hasn’t visited the modern day United States yet. >>>>> >>>>> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - >>>>> http://shlom.in/reply . >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discussions mailing list >>>>> Discussions@hamakor.org.il >>>>> http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discussions mailing list >>>> Discussions@hamakor.org.il >>>> http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discussions mailing list >>> Discussions@hamakor.org.il >>> http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discussions mailing list > Discussions@hamakor.org.il > http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >
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