Bagi pendukung Abdurrachman Wahid, Megawati  dan Amien Rais:
    janji Ciganjur itu bunyi apa yah? 

    Agar jelas: anda telah ditipu mentah-mentah oleh mereka,  tapi
    anda ikut  bertanggung jawag secara moral atas politik mereka
    sekarang ini, karena ada    n tahu dari dulu bahwa mereka itu adalah
    tukang tipu.  

    Sepanjang yang menyangkut saya, saya sudah bilang: posisi moral
    yang tepat adalah abstain! 

    Dan IM, orang yang berotak taik anjing dan air combran, orang
    yang berhati busuk dan tidak punya kejujuran intelektuil
    meyalahkan posisi moral yang saya pertahankan ketika itu. 

    Penyakit kebanyakan orang Nasrani dan keturunan Tionghoa adalah:
    cari selamat!

    Dan bukan memperjuangkan kebenaran dan keadilan! 

    Nista! 



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Jakarta Post
August 13, 2000 

Factions agree on TNI/Police decree 

JAKARTA (JP): All 11 factions in commission meetings at the People's 
Consultative Assembly (MPR) here on Saturday agreed to propose a 
decree which 
will ensure the Indonesian Military (TNI)/Police's presence in the 
Assembly. 

In a sub-commission meeting of the Assembly's commission in charge of 
decrees, factions agreed to accommodate the TNI/Police's political 
aspirations by giving them a presence in the Assembly, as they do not vote 
during the general election. 

The consensus on the draft further signals the strong support for a 
constitutional amendment, being discussed in another commission, that would 
constitutionally force their presence in the Assembly despite a strong public 
outcry. 

The only contentious debate on the draft decree seems to be on the 
technicalities and details, particularly on the TNI/Police's neutrality in 
politics. 

Legislator Mutammimul Ula suggested that the decree also assert that TNI and 
police members cannot be members of political parties. 

"The addition is aimed at giving a guarantee and a legal assurance of 
TNI/Police neutrality," Mutammimul from the Reform faction said. 

Article 5 of the current draft merely states that the TNI/Police act neutral 
and are not involved in practical politics. 

Maj. Gen. (ret.) Tayo Tarmadi from the TNI/Police faction rejected the 
proposal and said that by saying it acts neutral was sufficient as it already 
encompasses neutrality over all political aspects. 

"(But) we understand such a suggestion as the TNI/Police were in the past 
used by a certain political party," Tayo said. 

He then defended the need to maintain the existence of the TNI/Police in the 
Assembly, at least for the time being, especially in providing counsel from a 
defense and security perspective. 

Apart from the decree on the presence of the military faction in the Assembly 
decree, a decree on the separation of the TNI from the police was also being 
drafted as a follow-up to President Abdurrahman's decision on the matter in 
July. 

The three commission meetings, on constitutional amendments, decrees and 
recommendations to the executive, had become the central activity of the 
Assembly's Annual Session which is entering its second week. 

Handicap 

Meanwhile, President Abdurrahman Wahid's physical limitations received 
serious attention from members of the Assembly's Commission C, charged with a 
draft decree evaluating state institutions' progress reports, including the 
President's. 

Several members of smaller, but no less vocal, factions suggested that the 
Assembly invoke a 1973 decree on the President's health to press him to 
relinquish his power. 

The decree could in effect legalize Vice President Megawati Soekarnoputri's 
top role in the Cabinet. 

Sahruddin Tandjung of the United Development Party (PPP) faction said the 
President's health problems would remain a serious obstacle in the 
government's efforts to achieve progress in the future. 

"We have frequently witnessed the President sleeping in several meetings with 
the House. Many presidential tasks have already been done by the Vice 
President," he said. 

Oddly, it was the Reform and PPP factions, grouped in the "central axis", 
which, along with the Golkar Party, helped Abdurrahman be elected in October. 

The Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI Perjuangan) and Golkar 
factions are also proposing a draft decree recommending the President entrust 
technical matters in running the government to the Vice President. 

Separately in Commission A on constitutional amendments, its vice chairman, 
Slamet Effendy Yusuf, doubted whether the commission could conclusively 
deliberate all proposed amendments due to the complexity of the legal issue. 

Slamet, a Golkar legislator, pointed out that the 238-member commission only 
had four days left to fully review and adopt a 76 chapter constitutional 
draft before handing over its findings to the plenary session on Tuesday. 

Commission chairman Jacob Tobing indicated that the Assembly would likely set 
up an independent commission to thoroughly study the amendment draft, 
especially on items touching sensitive issues. 

Several legislators from the eastern part of Indonesia also demanded on 
Saturday a stronger constitutional guarantee that the regions would have more 
say in their local affairs. 

"We object to Chapter 18, which states that the central government gives 
wide-ranging autonomy to the regions. The autonomy is the right of the 
regions and not a gift from the central government," said Love the Nation 
Democratic Party faction's Gregorius Seto Hariyanto from West Kalimantan. 
(rms/prb/jun) 
 
 

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