Display Tag Developers,

This is the discussion I've been waiting/hoping for.  I've been lurking
since this list was created waiting to see if the path taken would be toward
a redesign or simply small refactorings of the existing code (with probable
feature bloat).  I was going to abandon the list if the path was the latter
and start my own sorceforge project (incorporating some of the features that
have been proposed on this list).  Luckily it looks like I don't have to do
that as it appears the path forward may be a complete rewrite.  Hallelujah!

I agree with a lot of what has been proposed in this thread.  Since many
developers have done redesigns posting them as seperate modules for
evaluation is an excellent idea.  That way we can combine the best of what
each has to offer into a new design.

I look forward to this.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Benjamin Simpson
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:26 AM
> To: displayTag
> Subject: Re: [displaytag-devel] Whither Future Development after 0.8.5?
>
>
> Jay,
>
> I should have been more clear.  You were correct in asking for and further
> providing more clarity to the statement.  I agree whole heartedly
> with your
> statement.
> <u>
>
> It is a mistake to tie this little tag to struts, tapestry or any other
> framework.
>
> </u>
>
> The only dependency I agree with to date is the usage of
> commons-beanutils.jar.
>
> While we are on the topic of "dos and don'ts", I would also like to state
> another flaw in the tag library.  The use of decorators is not consistent
> with the reason a user would want to use our tag.  The user is trying to
> avoid custom coding display logic.  If we wanted to provide the
> user with a
> consistent model, it should be a nestable tag interface that
> would be looked
> for in the body of a column tag.  Coding a decorator for every
> little thing
> is tedious.  There should be generic tags that could be nested within the
> larger context of table or column.
>
> One final note as I have had enough coffee this morning,
>
> If you are proud of your statement, it should not be diminished with a
> signature line like that is just my 2 cents worth.  I liked what
> you had to
> say.  I would have enjoyed the statement more if you would have said
> something like "eat these words" or "fix your misuse of
> indefinite articles
> when doing spell check and I won't have to do it for you next time..."
>
> Thanks for your input Jay, keep it coming :)
>
> Ben
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paulsen, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "displayTag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [displaytag-devel] Whither Future Development after 0.8.5?
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This might correct that the way we are progressing with "one
> > > off" bug fixes
> > > and a tendency towards struts as an assumed underlying framework
> > >
> >
> > Is display tag development heading in the direction of coupling it with
> > struts?
> > I think it would be a mistake to tie the display tag to struts (or any
> > underlying
> > framework for that matter).  If this is not what you meant, I apologize.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth,
> > -Jay
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Benjamin Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:14 AM
> > > To: displayTag
> > > Subject: Re: [displaytag-devel] Whither Future Development
> > > after 0.8.5?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well put John.  I am +1 for this approach.   What permissions
> > > in SourceForge
> > > are necessary to make the modules appear ("directed to any
> > > seasoned Source
> > > Forge Admin")?  If I have sufficient permissions and group
> > > consent, I will
> > > go ahead and make modules for John, Myself and any others who want to
> > > participate.
> > >
> > > I further propose that if you are willing to put your refactorings out
> > > there, they should only be considered if sufficient documentation and
> > > examples accompany them.  A readme, buildme, seeme and whyme
> > > set of files?
> > > Get me?
> > >
> > > This might correct that the way we are progressing with "one
> > > off" bug fixes
> > > and a tendency towards struts as an assumed underlying framework
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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