On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > David Lyon <david.l...@preisshare.net> writes: > >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:28:42 -0600, Ian Bicking <i...@colorstudy.com> wrote: >> >> > In the tools I've written, I generally give the traceback if the >> > verbosity is turned up, and in a case like this (an unexpected >> > exception -- for distutils that's any exception except a few that >> > distutils defines) I include "use -v for more". >> > >> > I think distutils (or Distribute) could do the same. >> >> Hi Ian, >> >> I think PIP is quite an accomplishment. >> >> But don't you think that its a big ask to refactor >> distutils/distribute to redo their error messages for package >> building? > > I've just had a read through the code for ‘pip’; AFAICT, the “redo the > error messages for package building” essentially amounts to using the > ‘logging’ module. Is that a big ask?
pip doesn't use the logging module, it uses its own logger, which is intended more for managing the output of a command-line program and not just post-mortem debugging. I don't think changing distutils to improve error output would be hard at all. It looks like there's a line in distutils.core that catches these exceptions (and doesn't look like it actually catches all exceptions?), and that can just be fixed. Another topic that has come up: I do agree subclassing makes it really hard to have multiple lines of development (specifically something like Setuptools or Distribute, along with ad hoc development in setup.py files). But I think that can be resolved. Perhaps, for instance, Distribute can have implementations of commands like build, that can easily be customized or extended without subclassing (e.g., by pre-build or post-build functions). I'd really be shocked if a rewrite of distutils was necessary, or even necessary to simplify things. -- Ian Bicking | http://blog.ianbicking.org | http://topplabs.org/civichacker _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
