On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Wichert Akkerman <wich...@wiggy.net> wrote: > On 09/27/2011 02:51 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Wichert Akkerman<wich...@wiggy.net> >> wrote: >> .. >>>> >>>> I understand where you're coming from but, .. >>>> I think it's saner to rely on proven technology >>>> than to invent our own protocol. NIH? >>> >>> This also feels like a problem that has already been solved in various >>> ways >>> by Debian, RedHat, CPAN and others. >> >> Yes, and we've found a way similar to CPAN, with some Python specifics >> (PyPI download statistics mainly) >> >> Oh my, we're cycling again. >> >> Nothing personal to you or Jim, but I have a sudden fatigue on >> packaging because it seems like people are ignoring what's being done >> to complain afterwards about us suffering of some kind of NIH :) > > It's just that my perspective is that of a simple user. And from my > perspective nothing has changed in the last couple of years. Pypi still goes > down occasionally, and when that happens many things start breaking. It may > very well be that there are things planned or in progress, but until they > are both usable and used by standard tools, which for me means buildout and > setuptools, they are invisible.
Fair enough, Pip has now the mirroring protocol implemented. I think they want to make it a default option for the next major Pip release. IOW, you should not suffer for downtimes using pip. We'd need to add the same feature in easy_install and zc.buildout. But since Pip did it, I think it's possible. We have 5 mirrors run by the community (http://pypi.python.org/mirrors) and I suspect porting pip's feature to zc.buildout and easy_install would take less time than creating a <Name your cloud service> app. Cheers Tarek > > Wichert. > -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig