On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:

> 
> On 15 Jul 2013 05:44, "Paul Moore" <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 14 July 2013 18:06, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wouldn't a .py file make the command `pip.py`` and not ``pip`` ?
> >
> >
> > Not if .py is a registered extension. What I can't remember is whether it 
> > needs to be in PATHEXT (which it isn't by default). The big problem here is 
> > that the behaviour isn't very well documented (if at all) so the various 
> > command shells act subtly differently. That's why I want to test, and why 
> > it won't be a 5-minute job to do so...
> >
> > But the various "replace the exe afterwards" hacks sound awfully 
> > complicated to me - particularly as pip doesn't control the exes in the 
> > first place, they are part of the setuptools console script entry point 
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > My strong preference here is to remove the current use of setuptools entry 
> > points, simply because I don't think the problem is solvable while pip 
> > doesn't control the exe management at all. That's a non-trivial change, but 
> > longer term maybe the best.
> >
> > Question for Nick, Brett and any other core devs around: Would python-dev 
> > be willing to include in the stdlib some sort of package for managing 
> > exe-wrappers? I don't really want pip to manage exe wrappers any more than 
> > I like setuptools doing so. Maybe the existing launcher can somehow double 
> > up in that role?
> 
> Not sure it fits the launcher, but having something along those lines in the 
> stdlib makes sense (especially in the context of a pip bundling PEP).
> 
> Another option we may want to consider is an actual msi installer for pip 
> (I'm not sure that would actually help, but it's worth looking into), as well 
> as investigating what other self-updating Windows apps (like Firefox) do to 
> handle this problem.

They do the "exec a helper executable that replaces the original" approach, 
which works fine for non-console apps since there isn't the problem of the 
shell getting confused :-/

--Noah

_______________________________________________
Distutils-SIG maillist  -  Distutils-SIG@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Reply via email to