On 3 July 2014 03:24, Reinout van Rees <rein...@vanrees.org> wrote:
> On 30-06-14 17:56, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, it's the "you still need a way to define what goes into the image"
>> part that intrigues me with respect to combining tools like zc.buildout
>> with Docker.
>
>
> Buildout, to me, solves all there is to solve regarding python packages and
> a bit of configuration. Including calling bower to go grab the necessary
> css/js :-)
>
> That css/js is quite an important part of "what goes into the image". Bower
> with it's dependency mechanism solves that (and it can be called from
> buildout).
>
> A third important one is system packages: "what do I apt-get install".
>
> **Question/idea**: what about some mechanism to get this apt-get information
> out of a python package? If a site or package absolutely requires gdal or
> redis or memcache, it feels natural to me to have that knowledge somewhere
> in the python package.
>
> Does anyone do something like this? I was thinking along the lines of a
> simple 'debian_dependencies.txt' that I could use as input for
> ansible/fabric/fpm/whatever.
>
> Looking for ideas :-)

Allowing external dependency info to be captured in the upstream
Python packages is one of the goals behind the metadata extension
system for metadata 2.0.

The current draft of the extension system is at
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0426/#metadata-extensions

A preliminary set of "standard extensions" is at
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0459/

The idea is that the "core metadata" focuses on what is needed to
support the essential dependency resolution process, while extensions
represent optional extras. The "installer_must_handle" field is an
escape clause allowing a distribution to say "if you don't handle this
extension, you can't install this package properly, so fail rather
than silently doing the wrong thing". That approach will allow us to
add post-install hooks later as an extension, and have earlier
versions of tools fall back to installing from source rather than
silently failing to run the post-install hooks.

Cheers,
Nick.
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