> But I'm suspicious of the rationale that *there will be fewer frontends so they should have more responsibility*.
To be fair, pip is currently struggling to keep up with project requirements as it is, which has caused some frustration in the community (not that the frustration isn't wrong, but I don't think it's not going to resolve any problems). I don't see how having even more frontends will resolve these manpower issues. 2017-08-28 14:32 GMT-05:00 Thomas Kluyver <tho...@kluyver.me.uk>: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, at 08:20 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > > Maybe we go fully to Nick's proposal that we don't mandate any sort of > > consistency constraints in the PEP. That would mean pip *has* to go > > sdist->wheel (because pip does need consistent behaviour), and > > xoviat's setuptools backend can skip building a sdist on the way to > > building a wheel. It also means that the build_wheel hook is > > essentially unreliable in isolation, and that all frontends will > > likely have to do the build_sdist->build_wheel with fallback to > > inplace build_wheel dance that pip does. But we expect many less > > frontends than backends, so maybe that's the right trade-off? > > I've mentioned this before, but I have little faith in our ability to > predict that one side of an interface will be far more numerous than the > other. This is partly from my experience with Jupyter, where we got that > prediction completely wrong. But I also think it's quite plausible that > many frontend tools will want to use this interface (to argue against > myself, most will be Python tools, so they could theoretically share a > common wrapper module - but I have some doubts about whether they will). > > I'm not saying we shouldn't do this - as Donald is firmly in favour and > you're wavering, it seems the easier option to wrap the discussion up. > But I'm suspicious of the rationale that *there will be fewer frontends > so they should have more responsibility*. > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >
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