On 2017-08-29 01:20, Paul Moore wrote:
On 29 August 2017 at 01:13, Chris Barker <chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Me too. At the moment, I only expect two backends of any substance -
your flit backend and xoviat's setuptools one. But I only know of one
frontend, namely pip - and talk of projects like tox or twine acting
as frontends never seems to get any traction.

scikit-build also expressed some interest:

https://www.mail-archive.com/distutils-sig@python.org/msg26553.html

although I don't see the pull request.





If the build API is clean and supported enough, I can see conda using it.

just sayin'

Thanks - that's really good to know. So *is* the build API clean
enough for you? Specifically:

1. build_sdist can be missing, or can report back (somehow) that it
failed to produce a sdist, and you should fall back to build_wheel.
2. build_wheel must always succeed and must always exist.
3. All hooks must be run in a separate subprocess

There's also error handling, which I don't recall the details of, but
I think boils down to the backend code can write what it likes to
stdout/stderr and may raise an exception indicating "something blew
up".

Those are basically the key points at the moment. Add to that, does
conda mind if build_wheel might result in a different wheel than
build_sdist->build_wheel would produce?


conda-build doesn't produce or consume wheels. It works by creating a clean conda environment and running a shell script to install the python package into that environment (including its own versions of /usr/lib /usr/etc /usr/bin /urs/include /sbin -- which is why it can cope with non-python packages like g++, julia, R, git etc.). All files produced by the install script are then put into a tar file, which is conda's version of a wheel.


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