On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > Surely the build system should know how to correctly name the wheel it > builds. > > It's probably worth mentioning the specific problem that motivated pip > to start doing this. > > It used to be standard, and is still quite common, for setup.py > scripts to contain stuff like: > > install_requires = [...] > if sys.version_info < (3, 4): > install_requires += [...] > if platform.python_implementation() == "PyPy": > install_requires += [...] > > setup(..., install_requires=install_requires) > > This kind of logic in setup.py worked fine in the old days when all > you did was 'setup.py install', but then wheels came along And indeed, setuptools originally used easy_install, which was part of setuptools... and > retroactively turned lots of setup.py scripts from working into > broken. The problem is that with this kind of setup.py, > > But it will take a while for existing setup.py files transition to > using those, and in the mean time pip can't assume that a random wheel > generated by 'setup.py bdist_wheel' has accurate Python tags. > This was my original point -- I understand that we want "pip install" to continue to work for, hopefully, everything it works for now. But I do think we should be clear about what is a hack for backward compatibility, and what is part of the designed functionality. Sorry to be poking at all this from the fringes (Not having been all that involved in a very long discussion), it's just that the whole distutils--setuptools--pip--distribute--setuptools--pip stack has a LOT of legacy cruft, and I'm concerned that the efforts for backward compatibility may end up leading us to another poorly de-coupled design. > Hopefully new legacy-free backends will get this right from the start. > exactly -- let's keep the "backward compatibility hack" labels clear! -CHB -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov
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