Can we try to get back on topic? There are certainly cases in which people's behavior or style will diverge from the norm for reasons outside of their control, but given the current content and intention of the CoC, that situation will be dealt with appropriately and humanely.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Dan S <danstowell+...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-10-10 7:17 GMT+01:00 Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org>: > > Hi, > > > > On 10/10/2014 01:08 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > > [...] > >> What is acceptable and normal in San Fransisco is going to be > >> different from what's normal and acceptable in Jakarta. We need to > >> allow for tweaks and changes to reflect local culture and mores. > > > > Absolutely. To remain within my thought experiment, the same body odour > > that is offending to the San Francisco crowd might be considered quite > > normal in other places. > > > > Which makes it very difficult to actually give examples, as recommended > > elsewhere in this discussion. You can make a Code that says "don't > > behave grossly", or "don't offend people", but as soon as you say "for > > example, offending behaviour is if you do X" then you're very likely > > already deep into cultural imperialism a.k.a. our values are more right > > than your values. > > I agree that we need to be aware of concerns at both extremes of the > scale - but I think there's a happy medium that can be struck, and I > think we can be optimistic about reaching it. The geekfeminism > guidance makes a good point that some specific examples are needed - > "don't be an asshole" doesn't really give anyone any clues about > what's expected/unacceptable, which is important for neurodiversity > reasons, for crosscultural reasons, etc. Both the geekfeminism CoC and > the QGIS CoC have simple not-too-specific examples, which personally I > think strike the right balance. > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > diversity-talk mailing list > diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >
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