Not sure how to make suggestions directly in the Google Doc or if i want to. 

I appreciate and feel broadly its sentiments but do not feel prepared to sign 
anything which has as a preamble an attack on one person, whatever the trigger. 
It's not equitable, risks entrenching the division. Principles sound but keep 
it about how things should be in a better world, not about how broken they are 
in this one.


zx
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  Jo Walsh
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 2:29 AM, arnalie faye vicario wrote:
> Hello/*Kumusta*,
> 
> *Salamat*/Thanks everyone for continuing the conversations and taking 
> this seriously.
> 
> It is good to speak up and comment about it in our individual 
> capacities, but a collective can build a fire 🔥 (charcoal comparison). 
> 
> This is what we did in OSM PH's Call to Correct Narratives About 
> Geospatial Work in the Philippines (re: Amazon-HOT video).  
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/aa/A_Call_to_Correct_Narratives_about_Geospatial_Work.pdf>
> 
> Also, I would like to quote and highlight what David Garcia 
> (@mapmakerdavid) has shared in Twitter:
> > It is not just the maps that matters. Who *makes* the maps matters. Who 
> > *tells* the stories of the mapping matters, too. Who *LEADS* the mapping 
> > and storytelling also matters. Who *gets powerful* due to the mapping and 
> > storytelling matters most.
> 
> Thank you Geochicas, Celine @mapeadora, Heather, Rebecca, Miriam 
> @mapanauta, Nelson Minar, LCCWG Group, OSMF past/present Board members 
> (Kate, Rory and Mikel), HOT Community WG and everyone who expressed 
> support and has spoken up (apologies if I missed your name). It is 
> really encouraging and inspiring. Please add your thoughts in the 
> document: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit
> 
> In case you missed it (like me), here is what Celine sent in the OSM 
> talk mailing list: 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085727.html.
> 
> Let us keep the fire burning!
> 
> =Arnalie
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:54 AM Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> wrote:
> > I should mention that what we, Maggie Crawely, Rob Nickerson and myself, 
> > want to accomplish is to create a committee to moderate the existing 
> > etiquette guidelines and later update the guidelines to reflect best 
> > practices of Code of Conducts.We planned to form a sub committee under the 
> > LCCWG since CoC is critical to Local Chapters. We did a survey of Local 
> > Chapters and those considering forming one. The results showed that 5 LC 
> > already had a CoC, 6 did not and 6 were consider or in a discussion to have 
> > a CoC.
> > 
> > Clifford
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Always
> >> Heather Leson
> >> heatherle...@gmail.com
> >> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >> Blog: textontechs.com
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:31 PM Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Heather - A small group of the LCCWG met via BigBlueButton yesterday to 
> >>> start a similar initiative. I was going to send an invite to the rest of 
> >>> the LCCWG as well as to this mailing list. Since you have the ball 
> >>> rolling, can you include lo...@osmfoundation.org in the mailing.
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:22 PM Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Great. working in the draft now.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you right back. Saturday is just a way to discuss this restart. We 
> >>>> can keep building. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Heather 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Heather Leson
> >>>> heatherle...@gmail.com
> >>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >>>> Blog: textontechs.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:10 PM Gertrude Namitala <trudyho...@gmail.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Heather for starting this. I will try to be available.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>> Trudy 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 23:05 Mikel Maron, <mikel.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> This is great
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2020, 03:55:49 PM EST, Heather Leson 
> >>>>>> <heatherle...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Great!   Editing now
> >>>>>> Hope we can have an initial chat
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> heather
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Heather Leson
> >>>>>> heatherle...@gmail.com
> >>>>>> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson 
> >>>>>> Blog: textontechs.com
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:33 PM Rebecca Firth 
> >>>>>> <rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> > Hi Heather,
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Thanks for setting that up - I'll need to jig some things around but 
> >>>>>> > really hope to be able to join that meeting. Some people had already 
> >>>>>> > started working on a statement to share. I am sharing here for 
> >>>>>> > allies to add comments they would like to raise, and to identify 
> >>>>>> > people who are keen to move this work forward: 
> >>>>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit
> >>>>>> >  
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > Rebecca
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:21 PM Heather Leson 
> >>>>>> > <heatherle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Hey 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> A few of us are going to meet this saturday about code of conduct 
> >>>>>> >> in osm. There is a codw of conduct but we think there needs to be 
> >>>>>> >> more. We can also touch on the diversity work that mikel shared 
> >>>>>> >> previously.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> 1500 utc before the osmf board meeting at 1600 utc.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Hope you can join. This will be a small group discussion. We can 
> >>>>>> >> always widen the circle later.
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Link to be shared later. Note this will be a safe and positive 
> >>>>>> >> space discussion. We will adhere strongly to the diversity list 
> >>>>>> >> code. 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Thanks so much
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> >> Heather 
> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> >> Diversity-talk mailing list
> >>>>>> >> Code of Conduct: 
> >>>>>> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> >>>>>> >> Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org
> >>>>>> >> 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > -- 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
> >>>>>> > 
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> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> @osm_washington
> >>> www.snowandsnow.us
> >>> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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