On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM, mrts <mrts.py...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jacob, I'm afraid you totally misunderstood me. > My message was intended to encourage people to > scratch their own itches more now that it's so > much easier -- and, of course, give back -- > instead of grumbling on the mailing list.
Yup, that's very constructive advice, and my apologies: I was mostly referring to Yuri's message when I talked about tone. Although you're both talking about forks, you're doing it in a much more constructive way. You have to understand that historically the fork as been the nuclear option in open source. Threatening to fork the code is roughly the equivalent of saying "screw you guys." Forks diverge quickly, and reconciliation becomes difficult, and so it's hard to feel any desire to engage. I understand you're saying something different here -- DVCSes have, to a limited degree, changed the story when it comes to forks. Rather, it's enabled a middle ground -- distributed branches -- that allow many of the benefits of a fork without all the heartache. What's frustrating, though, is hearing that you have a problem with our workflow without any concrete suggestions to improve it or offers of assistance. There's a general theme underlying most of this "angst" (as you call it): the tone implies that you're somehow entitled to our (core developers) time and energy, when we're just as stressed, harried, and busy as you. We're *volunteers*. We work on Django because we *want* to, because it scratches our own itches. This sense of entitlement to our time and energy is rude and offensive. If *anything* gets done, it's because someone volunteers to do it. If things aren't getting done, volunteer. Jacob --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
