Mikhail, et. al., I also love the vibe of the django community. I did not mean, when writing that line, to put down other communities; I was glad when I found Django to be greeted by language that did not put down other frameworks or their philosophies. Nevertheless, I think that the language in question is an empirically testable and true statement. The inverse is also true: Some frameworks, for some use cases, have distinct and measurable advantages over Django.
I'm not defending the language as it's written - by all means let's change it. However, I do think that it's worth mentioning, somehow, that Django excels in certain areas and that those areas are largely the result of sensible underlying philosophies. I think that this point answers a front-running question in the mind of project managers who are considering framework adoption. On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Julien Phalip <jpha...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > On 26 August 2011 07:55, Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boube...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> 2011/8/25 Mikhail Korobov <kmik...@googlemail.com> >> >>> >>> There are many big and well-known sites built with django and I think >>> mentioning these sites and providing testimonials from people working on >>> these sites can be better advertisement. >> >> Yes and no. Advertising on big websites & applications powered by django >> would be a plus but it can be misleading. I think anybody could agree that >> this same applications could have been done in PHP or Flask with the same >> success (see Facebook ?). > > While there are successful and large websites out there built with any > technology under the sun, I believe it is important to show that you *can* > use Django to build such sites. Nobody will trust that you are > webscale™ until you can show some concrete evidence of it :-) > Seeing that there are successful and large websites built with Django > certainly isn't enough to convince someone but it isn't just a plus either. > It is rather the *bare minimum* one needs to be reassured that they're not > wasting their time learning this new framework. > >> >> Engineers and people that take decisions in general want to know if it >> gets things done, but also how does it compare to other solutions. >> Comparing on features would be more engineer-minded that «How do you feel >> about Django». Engineering is not about feelings, it's a complex choice that >> weights pros & cons which can be technical but also social and commercial... >> >> In javascript world is common to compare frameworks based on speed, size, >> we could extend this to common problems regarding website building like >> cache management, authentication, authorization, L10N, I18N, db support, >> professional support, community support and the like... and even do code to >> code comparison if it makes sens. > > Comparisons are important but I'd rather encourage third parties to write > them up. Comparisons can really only be trusted from people who have > extended experience in all the compared frameworks and who do not appear > biased towards one or another. One should always be cautious with > websites/frameworks/products/whatever boasting that they are so much more > awesome than the others :-) > Julien > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en. > -- Justin Holmes Head Instructor, SlashRoot Collective SlashRoot: Coffee House and Tech Dojo 60 Main Street New Paltz, NY 12561 845.633.8330 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en.
