On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Florian Apolloner <f.apollo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:06:06 PM UTC+2, Adrian Holovaty wrote:
>>
>> Also, I should mention that this should be *optional* behavior, as the
>> current behavior is reasonable for the common case. The API for specifying
>> this "load everything" behavior is a separate discussion. Perhaps a keyword
>> argument like: User.objects.only('username', loadall=True).
>>
>
> I could imagine a Meta attribute which introduces so called "deferred
> groups" like SA has
> http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/latest/orm/mapper_config.html#deferred-column-loading,
> accessing one column of a group will load all columns of the group. Not
> sure if we want that level of control, but I thought it would be worth to
> look what SA can do in this regard.
>

I think groups are a very good abstraction for this problem. The two common
cases are probably "Load this column alone, because it's potentially a big
honking blob of text or binary" and "Load everything we don't have on this
object, because we are actually using it actively". Groups let you solve
both problems flexibly. The downside is that they might not be very DRY,
having to repeat group="everything" over and over if you just want to load
it all on first access.

Best,
Alex Ogier

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