On May 13, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Chris Wilson <ch...@aptivate.org> wrote:
> Hi all, > > On Mon, 13 May 2013, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > >> This isn't political equivocating. Its a genuine call to the community to >> tell us how we can make things better. > > If I may make a suggestion to be considered by the community: > > The status WONTFIX sounds awfully rude to me. It's like saying "That's a pony > and you can't have one, ever." It implies a terminal finality which actually > isn't meant in some cases, because it is possible (as we've seen) and even > sometimes recommended by a core developer, for a sufficiently determined > person to push for change on the mailing list and make it happen. > > Perhaps there's a case for a status like "DISCUSSION" or "NEEDINFO" when a > feature might be accepted if sufficient evidence for it comes to light, but > that evidence isn't there yet. > > I'd like to feel that reload() and first() are cases where a core developer > might choose to close a ticket with this new status instead of WONTFIX. I > would also hope that the core developers might be gentler with newbies like > me instead of scaring us off with a gruff one-word reply of WONTFIX. > > I think there is value in people "voting" for a feature on the ticket if they > don't feel up to arguing the case on the mailing list (which is a trial by > fire, and not for the faint hearted). Whoever is brave enough to take up the > issue on the mailing list can point to the number of votes on the ticket as > evidence for a desire for the feature, and hence its usefulness. And voting > on the ticket instead of here saves a lot of "me too" noise on the mailing > list. > > Cheers, Chris. > -- > Aptivate | http://www.aptivate.org | Phone: +44 1223 967 838 > Future Business, Cam City FC, Milton Rd, Cambridge, CB4 1UY, UK > > Aptivate is a not-for-profit company registered in England and Wales > with company number 04980791. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > I think the problem with voting on an issue is that it will make people feel justified in asking/demanding a feature that doesn't have a chance of going on. A bad idea with a 100 yes votes isn't going to get in any more than a bad idea with 1 yes vote. That's not to say it's not an ok idea. I don't know if it is or not. But it is an issue and folks will feel like # of votes justifies bad ideas getting implemented. ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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