As suggested to me (privately) by Tom Evans, I've started trying to keep an eye on tickets that bounce back and forth between open and wontfix. If a ticket "bounces" a few times it's probably a sign that there's something going on, and we may want to proactively start a mailing list thread rather than waiting for "someone" to do it.
https://www.djangoproject.com/trac/bouncing/ is that view; I hope you'll help me keep an eye on it and bring stuff here if it needs bringing. Thanks again for the suggestion, Tom. Jacob On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:36 AM, ptone <pres...@ptone.com> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:20:41 AM UTC-7, Luke Plant wrote: >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> >> On 14/05/13 00:55, Joe Tennies wrote: >> > As a fellow lurker (sorry I've been using Flask more recently), I think >> > this could simply be fixed via a form response. Here's a simple example: >> > >> > This bug is being marked as "WONTFIX" because <reasoning> >> > >> > Please realize that every API/feature added to Django needs to be >> > maintained across several versions. The more public APIs that are >> > exposed to users, the more difficult it is to refactor and add other >> > features. This request currently lacks enough merit to exceed the cost >> > it will add to the maintenance of Django. >> > >> > ... >> >> I think we need something shorter that developers can remember, i.e. >> that we can type ourselves without resorting to a canned response, >> 1which can be off-putting, especially if some of it doesn't apply. >> >> So I've gone ahead and created a wiki page, which can be longer and more >> friendly, and require a shorter response on the actual ticket, something >> like this: >> >> Closing as WONTFIX because ... >> >> If you want to persuade us otherwise, please bring it up on the >> DevelopersMailingList >> >> The page: >> >> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DevelopersMailingList >> >> That's my draft, feel free to edit. We don't want it too long, as that >> is intimidating by itself, but some of the points you make might would >> be good additions >> >> What do people think? > > > Luke, > > Thanks for taking a stab at improving things, I think one thing is not in > question - everyone is willing to make improvements best we can. > > I wonder if a slightly more concise version of this should be added to the > triaging docs instead of a wiki page (fine place to draft it though). > > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/contributing/triaging-tickets/#closing-tickets > > I feel that the wiki pages aren't very discoverable, and unless we are > talking about patching trac to include this, such a comment won't carry the > official weight of being in the project docs. > > One line I do feel needs a tweak: > > "while the suggestion is good in theory, it lacks enough merit to exceed the > cost it will add to the maintenance of Django" > > The truth is, there are some suggestions that are just flat out > incompatible. I'm fine to be gracious and thankful for the time someone > takes to offer a suggestion, but that doesn't mean that all suggestions are > automatically meritorious. > > Saying that in as kind a way as possible is tough - but only fair. > > -Preston > > >> >> >> Luke >> >> -- >> "I asked mom if I was a gifted child. She said they certainly >> wouldn't have paid for me." (Calvin and Hobbes) >> >> Luke Plant || http://lukeplant.me.uk/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
