I don't think it would break South installations as custom app commands will always override builtins. Could you open a ticket for that? The inconsistency is problematic. Obviously it would be backwards incompatible, but we need to gauge the size of the impact.
Marc On 1 Sep 2013 21:31, "Kevin Christopher Henry" <k...@severian.com> wrote: > Sorry to be late to this thread, I just came across it. > > There's another place where the order of INSTALLED_APPS matters: > management commands. Management commands associated with apps that come > later in INSTALLED_APPS will replace those with the same name that are > listed earlier. I can't find this documented anywhere, but a look at the > code confirms it. South, for example, takes advantage of this to override > the syncdb command (and hints at the ordering issue when the documentation > says: "add 'south' to the end of INSTALLED_APPS"). > > So a documentation update should probably note this specifically in the > management documentation, as well as mentioning it in the box for > INSTALLED_APPS. (I also think static files should also be mentioned in the > box, since as Aymeric points out that is another area dependent on the > order of apps.) > > One thing that's unfortunate is that the semantics of ordering for > management commands is opposite that of the other cases. For templates, > static files, and translations, listing an app *first *gives it > precedence, whereas with management commands it's listing it *last.*Ideally > this would be changed so that management commands were consistent > with the other cases, but that would create serious backwards compatibility > issues. Like, breaking everyone's South installation. :-O > > Cheers, > Kevin > > > On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:26:47 AM UTC-4, Stefano Crosta wrote: >> >> Done! >> https://code.**djangoproject.com/ticket/**20914#ticket<https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20914#ticket> >> >> thanks! >> >> On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:20:48 PM UTC+2, Aymeric Augustin wrote: >>> >>> 2013/8/13 Stefano Crosta <stefano...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> My proposal would then be to simply add another box to the >>>> https://docs.**djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/**settings/#installed-apps<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#installed-apps> >>>> to >>>> say "order matters" once more and link the other two pages for translations >>>> and templates. >>>> *if you think this would* help I could do it as well as a ticket. To >>>> save everybody's time no answer will mean it's not worth it! >>>> >>> >>> Yes, please file one, and include a link to this discussion. >>> >>> -- >>> Aymeric. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
