On 15 Feb 2014 18:13, "Donald Stufft" <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Christopher Medrela <chris.medr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My last post was pretty long and the most important questions and statements >> have left unanswered, so I will repeat them. >> >> What I'm proposing now is more conservative proposal. Firstly, Django will >> support Jinja2 out-of-the-box, but DTL will remain the "blessed" option. >> Secondly, Django will allow to mix DTL and Jinja2 templates (so you can >> include/inherit DTL template from Jinja2 one and vice versa). >> >> After doing it, I could focus on 3) decoupling DTL or/and 4) rewriting Django >> builtin templates in Jinja2 or/and 5) moving rendering form widgets from >> Python code to Jinja2 templates. >> >> After that all, we could start again the war DTL vs Jinja2, but please focus >> on the new proposal now. >> >> Questions are: >> >> 1) What do you think about the new proposal? Would it be useful? >> >> 2) Jinja2 doesn't support 3.2. Will Django 1.8 support 3.2? >> >> 3) Supporting Jinja2 out-of-the-box means introducing dependencies. Are we >> ready for this? > > > If we have Jinja2 I don't see any reason to keep the DTL as the blessed option.
Exactly > >> >> On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:07:19 PM UTC+1, Aymeric Augustin wrote: >>> >>> 2014-02-11 13:42 GMT+01:00 Christopher Medrela <chris....@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> >>>> What did Armin said about Python 3 exactly? >>> >>> >>> He wrote an extensive argumentation about "why Python 2 [is] the better >>> language for dealing with text and bytes" [1] as well as a number of tweets >>> and a few other blog posts along the same lines. >>> >>> While his arguments are technically correct, I disagree with his conclusions >>> because he's speaking with the point of view of an expert maintaining >>> libraries at the boundary between unicode and bytes (like werkzeug). However, >>> most Python users aren't experts and aren't maintaining such libraries. In my >>> experience working with Python programmers ranging from intern to veteran, the >>> unicode model of Python 3 is a strict improvement over Python 2 in terms of >>> pitfalls hit in day-to-day programming. YMMV. >>> >>> [1] http://lucumr.pocoo.org/2014/1/5/unicode-in-2-and-3/ >>> >>> -- >>> Aymeric. >> >> >> OK, so Armin finds Python 2 better than Python 3. But why is it at odds with >> Django? He didn't say that he is not going to support Python 3. So where is >> the risk that concerns you? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/79dbbf71-6b70-48d1-8510-cef471812677%40googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CA%2BWjgXOegMcvFC4_%2Bg8-siy_2s_VqLg5ecYquO4rw8_ivmBNzw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
