On 11/02/16 00:55, Andy Baker wrote:
I can't help but feel that the "admin is very rudimentary and hard to
customize" is perpetually overplayed by many in the community. Maybe I'm
suffering Stockholm Syndrome but I'd like to raise a dissenting voice.

I must admit I'm a large proponent of warning against getting caught up in "Admin as my management console".

As customisable as it can be, I find the problem to be it is a data-centric view of your system, closely tied to the database models.

IMHO a management interface for site should be a _process_ centric view, abstracting away the implementation details of tables and fields.

Perhaps a better way to think of it as the difference between a "management" and a "maintenance" interface.

True, in a lot of cases these can be the same thing, and for simpler sites Admin works "just fine". However, I've been on too many projects that wind up spending a lot of time and effort customising Admin to do things that would have been simpler in a custom view.

Worse still, I've seen projects alter their schema design to accommodate Admin's limitations [like lack of nested inlines]

Is it possible to add other views to admin? Sure... though it's not clear, or well documented.

Can documentation alone overcome this problem?  I'm not convinced it can.

For some years now I've been proposing an investigation into slicing Admin into two layers: a base "management interface framework" layer, and "admin" built atop this framework.

Then we can keep providing the Admin we all know and love, and also make it easier for people to build their own management interfaces.

However, I don't currently have the time [or admin familiarity] to undertake this work.

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