About the module name for Django's test suite, "tests" doesn't feel 
intuitive to me. I think it should be more descriptive, like 
"django_test_utils", though I'm hardly advocating for that. "test_utils" is 
already taken as a module for testing django.test.utils. Anyone else have 
suggestions of conventions used for this sort of thing in other projects?

About capture_stdout(), etc. these are copied from cpython's test.support. 
I guess it could be nice to see if Python could make them public so Django 
doesn't have to.

On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 1:53:43 PM UTC-4, Markus Holtermann wrote:
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> I think we can make a case for including this in django/tests/testcases.py 
> and in a new module tests/utils/something.py which is then only available 
> within Django's own the test suite. I think we should include that test 
> case as part of Django's own test suite for now. It's IMO easier to move 
> code from tests/utils/something.py to django/tests/something.py than vice 
> versa.
>
> That said, I think we should make capture_stdout()/err()/in() public API. 
> It's super helpful.
>
> /Markus
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 6:57:34 PM UTC+2, Tim Graham wrote:
>>
>> At present, we have a number of functions in django.test.utils which 
>> aren't documented and are meant for use in Django's test suite. Things like:
>>
>> * extend_sys_path()
>> * isolate_lru_cache() 
>> * captured_stdout()/err()/in()
>> * freeze_time()
>> * require_jinja2()
>>
>> I have the need to reuse a WidgetTestCase from forms_tests in 
>> postgres_tests so I tentatively proposed putting it in 
>> django/test/testcases.py with a comment that it's not a public API [0]. 
>> Simon proposed creating a django/tests/tests/utils.py submodule (alongside 
>> runtests.py) instead of defining it in django.test since it's not meant to 
>> be a public API.
>>
>> Do you have any feelings about how to best organize things? I agree that 
>> mixing public and private things in django.test is not ideal. Another idea 
>> I had was to create something like django/test/_utils.py (underscore 
>> prefix) for private stuff. That would allow user code to continue using 
>> private APIs at their own risk (whereas putting test helpers in tests/ 
>> would not). 
>>
>> [0] https://github.com/django/django/pull/8425
>>
>

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