This first-step solution is good with me. It will allow everyone to switch
to request.data (etc.). And there’d be a clear way to use your own logic to
set request.data if needed: write a middleware (or view decorator, view
class, etc.).

What should request.data be/do in the case of an unsupported content type?
Currently request.POST returns an empty QueryDict. But DRF raises
UnsupportedMediaType if it has no matching parser, which is translated into
a 415 Unsupported Media Type response.

DRF’s behaviour feels more correct to me, since it allows terser views that
don’t check the content type explicitly. But it’s less backwards
compatible. I’m not sure which I prefer.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 3:14 AM charettes <charett...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Carlton,
>
> This is not an area of the code base I'm heavily involved with but the
> increment approach you are proposing over this lack of feature support for
> basic content negotiation seems like a sane approach to gradually make the
> landscape better in this area without trying to get everything just right
> in a single stab.
>
> Adding ``request.data`` with support limited to JSON bodies at first seems
> the minimal step to lay some foundations towards revisiting the inclusion
> of very core/HTTP centric features that are sadly only available in DRF at
> the moment.
>
> +1 from me.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
> Le mercredi 9 novembre 2022 à 06:32:53 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm looking for a high-level sanity check if you would.
>>
>> I've been trying to see a way forward through a nest of issues around two
>> concrete proposals:
>>
>> 1. Adding "content negotiation" to the request object, allowing
>> automatical parsing of different content types, such as JSON, as well as
>> allowing that to work for all request methods, rather than just POST.
>>
>> 2. Modernising the API for the request object, adding attributes such as
>> `request.data`, and `request.query_params`, etc., rather than the uppercase
>> POST, GET, and so on.
>>
>> The first is a major stepping stone towards having (JSON or other) API
>> support in core — the "merge DRF into core" request that comes up
>> frequently. (The other main side of that would be a review of serialization
>> and forms, in light of developments such as Pydantic, attrs/cattrs, and
>> django-readers, but that is **not** on topic here.) This was first
>> suggested in 2011, but has made little progress in that time. [0][1]
>>
>> [0]: https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/4c4xT3ULNLk
>> [1]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21442
>>
>> The second Adam Johnson proposed 2020, and was nearly merged bar Mariusz
>> **blinking** at the size of the distruption, particularly for
>> documentation
>> throughout the community, for no change in behaviour. [2][3]
>>
>> There was an inconclusive discussion about whether we right there[4] but,
>> at the time I linked the modernisation to the content negotiation issue, as
>> the feature needed to pay for the change.
>>
>> [2]:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/Kx8BfU-z4_E/m/lFXTF0IMCQAJ
>> [3]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/32259
>> [4]:
>> https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/technical-board-vote-on-ticket-32259-modernize-request-attribute-names/10255
>>
>> Digging further into the history, with a mind to move these issues
>> forward, having **not** merged Adam's patch first time gives us the needed
>> pathway forward, I hope.
>>
>> I think there have been two reasons the content negotiation suggestion
>> has not progressed:
>>
>> 1. It's been all or nothing. Numerous times it's been requested to
>> **just** add JSON handling, but that's been bounced back to the full
>> proposal, adding customisable parsers and so on, which has then
>> stalled.[5][6]
>>
>> [5]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/27415
>> [6]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/32646
>>
>> 2. There's a backwards compatibility concern, particularly with multipart
>> request bodies, where currently you'd get a string, which you'd then try to
>> parse yourself, not expecting an already parsed dictionary, for example.[7]
>>
>> [7]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28678
>>
>> The way around the backwards compatibility concern is to introduce a new
>> code
>> pathway at `request.data` that handles things in the new way, whilst
>> deprecating `request.POST`, which could either be removed or become an
>> alias to
>> `request.data` at the end of the deprecation period. (Given the behaviour
>> change, and django-upgrade ongoing development, I'd lean now toward
>> removal, I
>> think.)
>>
>> In order to get this done, I'd like to introduce this **without also
>> solving the pluggable parsers issue** in the first version.
>>
>> That is, I would like to add `request.data` to provide parsed data from
>> the request body, for all request methods, together with `application/json`
>> content type handling (and multipart parsing for `application/json` parts
>> as well) **but** I would like to leave the configurable parsers step for a
>> later iteration.
>>
>> I think this would give most of the benefit, and allow us to (finally)
>> make forward steps here. My hope it that this is addressable before the 4.2
>> feature freeze in January, but if not, OK, it hits 5.0 — at least it's in.
>>
>> Folks needing other content types can parse request.body as they'd need
>> to do now.
>> Having a list of request.parsers, configurable in e.g. View.setup(), or a
>> middleware, or even a custom request class — essentially at any point
>> before accessing request.data — would be the follow-up. Clearly, this would
>> be good to have, but I feel like we've blocked on it so long, finding a way
>> forward that allows it to be deferred would be sensible. (Prefetch
>> evolved...)
>>
>> Matching ``request.data``, if Adam will pick it up, the modernised
>> request API would be
>> delightful. (The schedule leaves room for the code changes to come before
>> the
>> documentation updates if needed.)
>>
>>
>> Does this seem like a reasonable plan? Thanks
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Carlton
>>
>>
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