>
> I would have a slight preference for raising an UnsupportedMediaType as
> well and letting that percolate to a 415 as it seems more correct from a
> content negotiation perspective.


Thinking about it again I think I have a slight preference too.

I guess this would warrant adding a urlconf option for a custom handler415
view, like handler400 etc. ?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 4:58 PM charettes <charett...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > DRF’s behaviour feels more correct to me, since it allows terser views
> that don’t check the content type explicitly. But it’s less backwards
> compatible. I’m not sure which I prefer.
>
> Given the .data attribute would be a new feature of the request object I
> assume we don't have any backward compatiblity concerns to worry about as
> long as we document the behaviour of .data properly and leave .POST
> unchanged? I would have a slight preference for raising an
> UnsupportedMediaType as well and letting that percolate to a 415 as it
> seems more correct from a content negotiation perspective.
>
> Le vendredi 11 novembre 2022 à 11:22:44 UTC-5, Adam Johnson a écrit :
>
>> This first-step solution is good with me. It will allow everyone to
>> switch to request.data (etc.). And there’d be a clear way to use your own
>> logic to set request.data if needed: write a middleware (or view decorator,
>> view class, etc.).
>>
>> What should request.data be/do in the case of an unsupported content
>> type? Currently request.POST returns an empty QueryDict. But DRF raises
>> UnsupportedMediaType if it has no matching parser, which is translated into
>> a 415 Unsupported Media Type response.
>>
>> DRF’s behaviour feels more correct to me, since it allows terser views
>> that don’t check the content type explicitly. But it’s less backwards
>> compatible. I’m not sure which I prefer.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 3:14 AM charettes <chare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Carlton,
>>>
>>> This is not an area of the code base I'm heavily involved with but the
>>> increment approach you are proposing over this lack of feature support for
>>> basic content negotiation seems like a sane approach to gradually make the
>>> landscape better in this area without trying to get everything just right
>>> in a single stab.
>>>
>>> Adding ``request.data`` with support limited to JSON bodies at first
>>> seems the minimal step to lay some foundations towards revisiting the
>>> inclusion of very core/HTTP centric features that are sadly only available
>>> in DRF at the moment.
>>>
>>> +1 from me.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 9 novembre 2022 à 06:32:53 UTC-5, carlton...@gmail.com a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a high-level sanity check if you would.
>>>>
>>>> I've been trying to see a way forward through a nest of issues around
>>>> two concrete proposals:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Adding "content negotiation" to the request object, allowing
>>>> automatical parsing of different content types, such as JSON, as well as
>>>> allowing that to work for all request methods, rather than just POST.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Modernising the API for the request object, adding attributes such
>>>> as `request.data`, and `request.query_params`, etc., rather than the
>>>> uppercase POST, GET, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> The first is a major stepping stone towards having (JSON or other) API
>>>> support in core — the "merge DRF into core" request that comes up
>>>> frequently. (The other main side of that would be a review of serialization
>>>> and forms, in light of developments such as Pydantic, attrs/cattrs, and
>>>> django-readers, but that is **not** on topic here.) This was first
>>>> suggested in 2011, but has made little progress in that time. [0][1]
>>>>
>>>> [0]: https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/4c4xT3ULNLk
>>>> [1]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/21442
>>>>
>>>> The second Adam Johnson proposed 2020, and was nearly merged bar Mariusz
>>>> **blinking** at the size of the distruption, particularly for
>>>> documentation
>>>> throughout the community, for no change in behaviour. [2][3]
>>>>
>>>> There was an inconclusive discussion about whether we right there[4]
>>>> but, at the time I linked the modernisation to the content negotiation
>>>> issue, as the feature needed to pay for the change.
>>>>
>>>> [2]:
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/Kx8BfU-z4_E/m/lFXTF0IMCQAJ
>>>> [3]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/32259
>>>> [4]:
>>>> https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/technical-board-vote-on-ticket-32259-modernize-request-attribute-names/10255
>>>>
>>>> Digging further into the history, with a mind to move these issues
>>>> forward, having **not** merged Adam's patch first time gives us the needed
>>>> pathway forward, I hope.
>>>>
>>>> I think there have been two reasons the content negotiation suggestion
>>>> has not progressed:
>>>>
>>>> 1. It's been all or nothing. Numerous times it's been requested to
>>>> **just** add JSON handling, but that's been bounced back to the full
>>>> proposal, adding customisable parsers and so on, which has then
>>>> stalled.[5][6]
>>>>
>>>> [5]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/27415
>>>> [6]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/32646
>>>>
>>>> 2. There's a backwards compatibility concern, particularly with
>>>> multipart request bodies, where currently you'd get a string, which you'd
>>>> then try to parse yourself, not expecting an already parsed dictionary, for
>>>> example.[7]
>>>>
>>>> [7]: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28678
>>>>
>>>> The way around the backwards compatibility concern is to introduce a
>>>> new code
>>>> pathway at `request.data` that handles things in the new way, whilst
>>>> deprecating `request.POST`, which could either be removed or become an
>>>> alias to
>>>> `request.data` at the end of the deprecation period. (Given the
>>>> behaviour
>>>> change, and django-upgrade ongoing development, I'd lean now toward
>>>> removal, I
>>>> think.)
>>>>
>>>> In order to get this done, I'd like to introduce this **without also
>>>> solving the pluggable parsers issue** in the first version.
>>>>
>>>> That is, I would like to add `request.data` to provide parsed data from
>>>> the request body, for all request methods, together with `application/json`
>>>> content type handling (and multipart parsing for `application/json` parts
>>>> as well) **but** I would like to leave the configurable parsers step for a
>>>> later iteration.
>>>>
>>>> I think this would give most of the benefit, and allow us to (finally)
>>>> make forward steps here. My hope it that this is addressable before the 4.2
>>>> feature freeze in January, but if not, OK, it hits 5.0 — at least it's in.
>>>>
>>>> Folks needing other content types can parse request.body as they'd need
>>>> to do now.
>>>> Having a list of request.parsers, configurable in e.g. View.setup(), or
>>>> a middleware, or even a custom request class — essentially at any point
>>>> before accessing request.data — would be the follow-up. Clearly, this would
>>>> be good to have, but I feel like we've blocked on it so long, finding a way
>>>> forward that allows it to be deferred would be sensible. (Prefetch
>>>> evolved...)
>>>>
>>>> Matching ``request.data``, if Adam will pick it up, the modernised
>>>> request API would be
>>>> delightful. (The schedule leaves room for the code changes to come
>>>> before the
>>>> documentation updates if needed.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this seem like a reasonable plan? Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Carlton
>>>>
>>>>
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