Yeah, I guess I'll have to redact my comment about Zope.

I must say though, I've never been much of a fan of bloated frameworks
like this. I spent enough time being forced to maintain Cold Fusion,
thank you.

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kojiro <msmit...@naz.edu> wrote:
> It would be a mistake to compare Zope to Django. Django is a
> lightweight, easy-to-learn, something-like-MVC framework with a built-
> in ORM. Zope is a complex, rich, unabashedly pythonistic metaframework
> with a built-in ACID compliant key-value store. Zope is neither a POS
> nor unusually slow. Its history is inextricably intertwined with the
> history of Python itself. Some superb libraries and tools have come
> out of the Zope project, including both Plone and Repoze.BFG, now
> Pyramid.
>
> Let's not get any further OT, but please, keep the FUD off the list.
>
> References:
> http://books.google.com/books?id=5zYVUIl7F0QC&lpg=PA1130&ots=HUb87eoQwI&pg=PA1130#v=onepage&q&f=false
> http://plope.com/bfg-becomes-pyramid
>
> On Feb 5, 10:50 am, Jon J <urbanconfeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well I was unfortunate enough to  look up the official zope website,
>> and as I'm typing this it's STILL loading. Haha, I can see what a POS
>> it is and definitely won't be using it for any projects anytime soon.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <law...@thenilgiris.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 01:02 +0000, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
>> > wrote:
>> >> May I ask, how well did you get along with Zope? From what I can tell,
>> >> Django is suited for SME, where as Zope is the kinda thing that banks
>> >> would
>> >> be using etc.
>>
>> > as long as one sticks to out of the box stuff and zope's own object
>> > database, things are dead easy - but the moment you want to fine tune or
>> > use an external database - then things become hairy. Documentation sucks
>> > big time - I see a lot of refugees from zope here. And bloat - dont even
>> > talk of it.
>> > --
>> > regards
>> > KG
>> >http://lawgon.livejournal.com
>> > Coimbatore LUG rox
>> >http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/
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