I've recommended: http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Python-Professional-Magnus-Hetland/dp/159059519X
To people with good success. Best, William On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:46 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds Great! > > I started yesterday. > > JJ > > > On Nov 27, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Timothy Makobu <makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Read that Python tutorial first, It will answer all your questions . You > need to read the WHOLE thing. > > http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html > > > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:52 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> Does our system include a Python Interpreter? >> >> " >> >> The interpreter’s line-editing features usually aren’t very >> sophisticated. On Unix, whoever installed the interpreter may have enabled >> support for the GNU readline library, which adds more elaborate interactive >> editing and history features. Perhaps the quickest check to see whether >> command line editing is supported is typing Control-P to the first Python >> prompt you get. If it beeps, you have command line editing; see Appendix >> *Interactive Input Editing and History >> Substitution*<http://docs.python.org/tutorial/interactive.html#tut-interacting> >> for >> an introduction to the keys. If nothing appears to happen, or if ^P is >> echoed, command line editing isn’t available; you’ll only be able to use >> backspace to remove characters from the current line. >> >> " >> >> JJ >> >> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:55 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So you feel that that documentation of Python is the best reference? I'm >>> sure it is just wanted to ask. >>> >>> JJ >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Timothy Makobu < >>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> But first, all of this http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Timothy Makobu < >>>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nice. Now read ALL of this http://djangobook.com/en/2.0/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:55 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.cm> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looks like I am in good shape! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks so much man! >>>>>> >>>>>> http://madtrak.com/success.png >>>>>> >>>>>> JJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! Yes sounds like something from my UNIX class. I have now >>>>>>> added it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What will django-admin.py do for me? Oh are you just saying I can >>>>>>> run it from anywhere now? Any of the commands I want to work with >>>>>>> python/django? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Timothy Makobu < >>>>>>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, iPython is installed now. But now you need to add >>>>>>>> C:\Python27\Scripts >>>>>>>> to your PATH variable, so you wont have to keep going there to run >>>>>>>> things. >>>>>>>> After you add it, you can run django-admin.py, easy_install, iPython >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> from any directory in cmd.exe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This link shows you how: >>>>>>>> http://geekswithblogs.net/renso/archive/2009/10/21/how-to-set-the-windows-path-in-windows-7.aspx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Okay I was able to get something to go there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At first I saw warnings so I wasn't sure but here are the images. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython1.png >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython2.png >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you think I am in good shape with ipython? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To perform the easy install of django would i execute: >>>>>>>>> easy_install.exe >>>>>>>>> django? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And if so would that just overwrite what I have already installed, >>>>>>>>> like would it be good to do it a second time even though I think it >>>>>>>>> worked >>>>>>>>> the first. Honestly, I'd probably leave it for now just wanted your >>>>>>>>> thoughts on easy install. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Timothy Makobu < >>>>>>>>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, you're welcome. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Easy install is usually in C:\Python27\Scripts >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you can go there from within cmd.exe and run "easy_install.exe >>>>>>>>>> ipython" It should work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:56 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a confirmation from William that I installed Django but >>>>>>>>>>> you said >>>>>>>>>>> iPython would be helpful and since I don't remember much Python >>>>>>>>>>> I was >>>>>>>>>>> hoping to make that work. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for taking the time to help me get started you're >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> life saver! : ) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> JJ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 11:56 pm, Timothy Makobu <makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > - Install setup toolshttp:// >>>>>>>>>>> pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools/0.6c11 >>>>>>>>>>> > - Go to the command line (cmd.exe) and type >>>>>>>>>>> > - easy_install django >>>>>>>>>>> > - easy_install ipython (not needed by django, but very >>>>>>>>>>> useful, as you >>>>>>>>>>> > will see when you come to running "python manage.py >>>>>>>>>>> shell" >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > That's all! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:59 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > > Okay just so everyone knows! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > I was able to extract the .tar file and I now see the files. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > In order to import these files correctly should I place >>>>>>>>>>> these files in the >>>>>>>>>>> > > install directory of Python 2.7 and then attempt the >>>>>>>>>>> commands? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > Or is the location of Django just arbitrary can I place it >>>>>>>>>>> wherever I like >>>>>>>>>>> > > and then work from the Python prompt? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > JJ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Ivo Brodien < >>>>>>>>>>> i...@brodien.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> windows users have extracted your command will look like >>>>>>>>>>> this: ....... >>>>>>>>>>> > >> to execute the .tar file. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> as tom mentioned, you have to use 7zip two times. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> the tar file is another archive (like .zip, .gz ) which you >>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>> > >> decompress and then you have the django directory and you >>>>>>>>>>> can go on with >>>>>>>>>>> > >> the tutorial. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:55 , JJ Zolper wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> JoeLinux, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Oh interesting. It seems the 64 bit version is sort of >>>>>>>>>>> unclear. Any >>>>>>>>>>> > >> help there? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Would I be able to install my Python is well with a smaller >>>>>>>>>>> command? I >>>>>>>>>>> > >> am back at ground zero because I had to adjust the Python >>>>>>>>>>> version back >>>>>>>>>>> > >> to 2.5 so Django would agree. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I am interested just not sure how to work the 64 bit >>>>>>>>>>> version. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 11:40 am, Joey Espinosa < >>>>>>>>>>> jlouis.espin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> If you install the "setuptools" package (http://goo.gl/UjFh), >>>>>>>>>>> then all >>>>>>>>>>> > >> you >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> have to do to install Django (or any other Python library) >>>>>>>>>>> is this: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> easy_install django >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> And it will handle the rest. Just a suggestion. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> -- >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Software Developerhttp://about.me/joelinux >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011 10:37 AM, "Tom Evans" < >>>>>>>>>>> tevans...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:00 AM, JJ Zolper < >>>>>>>>>>> jzth...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I am new to Django! I was able to download and install: >>>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7.2 >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> x86 64 on my Windows 7 64 bit machine. I think that is all >>>>>>>>>>> that I will >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> need to execute the command line? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I installed Python to C:/Python27 as the program intended. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I then downloaded: Django-1.3.1.tar.gz file and was try to >>>>>>>>>>> figure >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> where to go to next. I used the 7 zip to extract it to: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Django-1.3.1.tar. But I wasn't sure the next steps. I >>>>>>>>>>> opened the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Python cmd prompt. I typed the command in: tar xzvf >>>>>>>>>>> Django-*.tar.gz. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> But I got errors about the portion "xzvf" I feel that the >>>>>>>>>>> directories >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> are not set up correctly. Do I need to adjust my command >>>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> directory because I already tried that. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> I would really appreciate a step through that would get me >>>>>>>>>>> all set up >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> with the baseline. I am interested to moving on from to the >>>>>>>>>>> more in >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> depth chapters. I tried hard to understand the input from >>>>>>>>>>> the comments >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> on the page but I was unable to find anything that gave me >>>>>>>>>>> any sense >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> of direction on how to place the Django files. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> PS. sorry this is available and I didn't see it in the new >>>>>>>>>>> booklet. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> tar.gz is a gzipped (.gz) tape archive (.tar) file. 7zip >>>>>>>>>>> should be >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> able to gunzip it and extract the files from the archive - >>>>>>>>>>> it might >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> require two steps. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> The 'tar xzvf…' command is how one extracts a tar.gz under >>>>>>>>>>> unix/linux >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> from the OS command line - not the python command line. As >>>>>>>>>>> the docs >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> say, you can download and install bsdtar in windows, in >>>>>>>>>>> which case the >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> OS command would be 'bsdtar zxvf …'. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> This is the second time this week someone has had issues >>>>>>>>>>> extracting a >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> tgz on windows - any chance that django could be packaged >>>>>>>>>>> up in a more >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Windows friendly zip file format in addition to tgz? >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/install/#installing-an-o. >>>>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> -- >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> "Django users" group. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> To post to this group, send email to 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