Yeah, it’s hard to just learn the pythonic way of doing things. It’s a mix of functional and OOP practice with a bunch of built in stuff that you wouldn’t know unless you came across it. This is kind of why python can come across as a cult sometimes ;)
One book that I recommend for learning some pythonic ways of doing things is “Data science from Scratch” by Joel Grutch Of course it’s focused on an intro to basic data science, but anyone capable of programming and isn’t afraid of pretty basic math can follow along, and the way he codes his examples are very pythonic so you’ll pick up a lot of cool tricks. I’d also just suggest googling examples of pythonic code and you’ll get some good examples. What I said in my earlier response may have came across as the opposite of what I meant though, I meant don’t let the pythonic way of doing things get in the way of doing things correctly in a way that is easier to maintain. It’s easy to write sloppy code with python due to its scripting nature, but it’s important to remember good OOP design principles and proper project architectures. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au> wrote: > >> On 15/11/2018 2:28 PM, Joel Mathew wrote: >> The last point is a bit of a sore for me. I'm well versed with some other >> languages including perl, C, and javascript. Python seems to have "pythonic" >> ways of doing stuff that's at loggerheads with all other languages. Is there >> a single resource to learn the pythonic way of doing things? > > Not sure about a single resource for Python. For Django however, there is Two > Scoops of Django which claims to (and I believe) aggregate best practices for > the web framework. > > There are lots Python gurus who do presentations at PyCons around the world. > Plenty of blogs and tutorials as well. Raymond Hettinger comes to mind. > > Google python best practices and there are heaps to choose from. You should > pick up a sense of it by scanning a few of those pages. > > > >> Like, say for perl, there's Larry's books, which provide a solid foundation >> for best practices. >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> Joel G Mathew >> >> >> >> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 08:49, Ryan Gedwill <ryangedw...@gmail.com >> <mailto:ryangedw...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> No problem! >> >> Also as a side note to the point that you heard django is slow... >> >> Django is extremely scalable, which of course requires speed. >> It’s probably the most popular web framework among startups of any >> magnitude (at least from what I’ve seen) by a mile. >> >> Django certainly may require some extra optimization compared to >> something like ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>, just like scaling any >> python software, but there are ways around a lot of it that are >> well understood. >> >> Instagram and Venmo are written in django, which is proof that it >> can be scaled with the rest of the big players in the industry. >> >> There are certainly problems with scaling python and Django, a >> perfect language/framework doesn’t exist, but there are benefits >> to both python and Django that can be worth the tradeoff. >> >> In addition to the fact that both Django and python are so >> flexible and stay up to date with modern trends as well as any of >> their competitors, I always suggest learning them compared to the >> other options out there. Just don’t let python get in the way of >> writing good code, because as a beginner it’s really easy to >> forget best practices with it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 14, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Arturo Fernandez <afern...@gmail.com >> <mailto:afern...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Thanks :) >>> >>> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 9:41:35 PM UTC-5, Ryan Gedwill >>> wrote: >>> >>> I live in the SF Bay Area and there are no shortage of jobs >>> in Django. It is true there are also plenty of jobs in Node, >>> but you can’t compare a framework to a backend language. I >>> see far more python jobs than node jobs. >>> >>> 2 things to keep in mind though (for reference I’m a >>> python/Django dev but have experience in node and c# as well): >>> >>> 1. Just because something is very popular doesn’t mean it’s >>> the easiest to get a job in. There may be more python/JS jobs >>> out there, but there are also way more people applying to >>> them. There are plenty of .NET jobs out there, and far less >>> entry level developers who are looking for them. Nearly every >>> single entry level developer is looking for those python/JS jobs >>> 2. Often times the language and framework you’re experienced >>> in doesn’t matter. I recently had an interview for a Go >>> position, and I was allowed to pick which language I wanted >>> to do the interview in. Most web development jobs are looking >>> for your understanding of general software and web >>> development principles. If you understand html/css/js, sql >>> databases in regards to MVC architecture, MVC architecture >>> itself, and REST API’s and requests, it probably won’t matter >>> what language as long as you can prove it. Knowing the >>> language and framework of the company you’re applying to is >>> kind of just brownie points and improves your chances. If I’m >>> amazing at django and web development but don’t know the >>> language being used, I’ll generally be chosen over someone >>> who’s shaky on web development who uses the same language as >>> the company >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 14, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Arturo Fernandez >>> <afer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello community, today someone at work told me to bare in >>>> mind which tech I use in terms of profitability. As a >>>> backend language, there is no doubt that I'll use Python, >>>> however I'm doubting about the framework, whether I should >>>> use Python or not for web. >>>> I heard that Django is kind of slow, and also there amount >>>> of jobs are decreasing. Is that true? I initiated my web >>>> experience with Node.js, but I don't want to continue it due >>>> to the instability. A friend recommend me .Net, so I have >>>> all this kind of doubts in my head. Can someone help me >>>> clear my mind? 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