On 10 oct, 14:19, Wayne M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am currently debating between using Django or Ruby on Rails for a
> new SaaS web app I'm thinking of making.  I've not done a subscription-
> based site before, so I'm looking for something that provides the
> basic functionality since I would probably not be able to write my own
> without it taking a long time.
>
> I like the look and feel of Django a little better than Rails (some
> minor beefs like how you have to add customization to get the
> development server to display images and stylesheets, when Rails'
> "WEBRick" server does so out of the box), as well as the fact Django
> is more customizable, but so far the biggest detriment I have found is
> that the Rails community seems much larger, with many common things
> already built by the community so you just have to install a plugin or
> a gem, and you get exactly what you need.
>
> In this specific case, there is the SaaS RailsKit (http://www.railskits.com) 
> that provides the framework for a subscription-
> based site out of the box, with account management, having account
> subdomains (e.g. customer1.mydomain.com, customer2.mydomain.com),
> different plans, recurring billing, and the like.  It's a bit pricey,
> but as I said I would probably be unable to write my own for all of
> this as I would also need to learn Ruby and Rails/Python and Django in
> order to be able to develop my app in the first place.  I've done some
> basic tutorials in both, but I want to choose one and stick with it.
>
> Is there anything similar to this for Django?  I would rather not
> switch between the two as the languages are similar

Well... They are both hi-level dynamic OOPLs using dotted notation,
yes. This set aside, they are greatly different when it comes to
object model etc.

> and I would
> probably get confused at some point.  I did find a "django-accounts"
> module (I don't know what plugins are called in Django parlance,
> sorry)

Pluggable apps. really, they are just Django apps, that have been
written with "pluggability" in mind, nothing more.

> at Google Code, but it doesn't seem to have been updated since
> 2007 and there are no instructions at all on how to actually integrate
> it into an existing application.

Perhaps here ?
http://code.google.com/p/django-accounts/wiki/HowToInstall

But anyway: it looks like abandon-ware, and you'll have some work to
do to make it work with django 1.x


You may find other stuff here:
 http://djangoplugables.com/

and there:
 http://djangosearch.com/resources/


But I can't tell if you'll find what you're after.

> I apologize if these questions are a little noobish in nature; I'm
> trying to choose a development language and framework so I can start
> working on this application, and Rails/Django are my two major choices
> - I like the feel of both but as I said above, Django seems less "Do
> it this way and only this way" and more customizable than Rails, so
> I'm leaning towards Django... it's just that there doesn't seem to be
> as many resources out there.

Possibly... OTHO, there are also less "resources" for RoR than there
are in good ole PHP. IOW : you should perhaps base your choices on the
language and resource's quality too (not to say RoR resources are bad
- just that 'more' doesn't necessarily means 'better').

As far as I'm concerned, I'd start with doing base tutorials in each
languages and see what language fits my brain. Then if there's no
clear choice, doing the same with both frameworks. It's a matter of a
couple days - let's say a week at most.

My 2 cents
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