On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 20:55 -0800, maeck wrote:
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> Now I can pass the fieldnames as values('parent') for now, It would be
> easier if initial did not care if the _id is provided or not.
> Or am I missing something else?

What you're missing, or rather, assuming, is that querysets are ideal or
intended to be used directly as initial data, and that isn't the case.
Forms are separate pieces of code from models and shouldn't have to
understand all the foibles of models (i.e. enforce loose coupling). If
you want to pass in the results of a queryset directly, it's easy, but
you do have to take care and pass in the right values by specifying the
names of the fields. You know the models you are using, so writing down
their field names isn't particularly onerous.

It happens that values(), by default, returns "parent_id" for historical
reasons. However, we set things up so that you an also ask it to return
"parent" by specifying that in the fields list. So use that
functionality.

If you still think that's all just nit-picking and we should compromise
to avoid the inconvenience, realise how bad it is: first you have to
teach Form's initial data that when they expect "foo", it might really
be spelt "foo_id". The form doesn't know this is a foreign key, it just
knows it's a choice field. But since "_id" isn't the only possible
suffix, now the form has to be able to handle any possible suffix --
"foo_blah", for example -- since the database column name can be
specified in the model. So we're looking at all sorts of possible
alternate names for the key. Thus, the form really needs to have
reference to the full model to inspect all that. Now we're passing in
models and tying the form to the model and it's starting to look like
you really should be using ModelFormSet. Short version: it's just not
worth all the complexity. We have ModelFormSets for standard model->
form conversions and an easy way to produce sequences of dictionaries if
you have other situations where a FormSet is more useful.

These things have a way of being much more complicated than they look on
the surface. :-)

Regards,
Malcolm


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