> You could just show the domain in green on the MUA, to show that
> this email is successfully DMARC authenticated by the domain and the
> domain as strong DMARC policies (p=reject). I feel it should show the
> UTF8 version as well as the puny code version....
>
> No need of a CA.

If this were done then what is stopping me, as a spammer, from registering 
1inkedin.com (or something similar to another high profile target), and then 
setting up DKIM and DMARC? If I send a malicious email, it would get 
highlighted the same as a message from linkedin.com. That's not what we want 
when it comes to highlighting messages; we are looking for the senders that we 
trust, not merely the senders that authenticate.

-- Terry

From: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 5:00 PM
To: Terry Zink
Cc: dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org
Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC thwarted already?


On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Terry Zink via dmarc-discuss 
<dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org<mailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org>> wrote:


Doesn't this come back to the whitelist idea? For the green bar SSL certs 
(Extended Validation), the certs have a bunch of information encoded in it, and 
the browsers have a list of CA's that they trust. AFAIK, the only way to do 
that for email is through DKIM but you wouldn't highlight all DKIM-signed 
email, only DKIM-signed email that you trust which is compared against a 
whitelist.

-- Terry

You could just show the domain in green on the MUA, to show that this email is 
successfully DMARC authenticated by the domain and the domain as strong DMARC 
policies (p=reject). I feel it should show the UTF8 version as well as the puny 
code version....

No need of a CA.

Spammers could use DMARC too, but it is about authentication/attribution not 
about reputation.

It seems to me the DMARC spec, should contain strong advice to MUA. MUA 
developers do read RFCs, otherwise they would never have done POP/IMAP...

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