Hi Jonathan,

> After further research, I think this is because failure reports aren't
> actually generated for p=none, i.e., they're only generated for p=reject.

There is no such linkage. I see failure reports for domains that publish
"p=none" all the time.

However (unfortunately) I don't get them from from all DMARC-enabled
receivers. Just as DMARC senders choose whether to deploy SPF, DKIM, or
both, receivers decide individually whether or not to send failure
reports. When you find somebody at a large mailbox provider who doesn't
send them, who's willing and/or able to talk about it, the driver is
usually liability concerns around whether or not you can send failure
reports without running afoul of data/personal privacy laws in some or
many jurisdictions where they operate.

Speaking only for the small domains I operate, Hotmail appears to be the
larges US-based mailbox provider sending failure reports - I received
one from them just last week. Internationally, I'd say it's NetEase of
China (notably 126.com and 163.com). However many small domain operators
using the OpenDMARC milter seem to enable failure reports.


> Unfortunately, the information we're getting from the aggregate
> reports that various domains are sending us is not always sufficient
> for us to figure out DMARC failures.

Are you seeing failures for messages sent by servers you operate or
authorize? Or is it more a question of identifying the various sources
you don't already know about and figuring out why messages using your
domain(s) are coming from them?

I'm sure you can deal with the aggregate reports from a parsing
perspective, but perhaps you could use some assistance with the
interpretation of the data? There are a number of  services listed on
the resources pages at DMARC.org (link below). Most often I hear about
folks starting with the free tier that dmarcian.com offers, but anybody
on that list could provide assistance.

>From comments in the reports, and from databases the report processors
maintain, you can often get a clearer picture of traffic that's going
through known forwarders or mailing list operators. (Such traffic might
be expected to have authentication failures for assorted reasons you're
probably already aware of.)

--Steve.

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