Is there an identifiable attack vector which can be based on using the
(forward confirmed) HELO name for SPF pass?

If not, why change?



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 6:09 AM Dotzero <dotz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:13 AM Murray S. Kucherawy <superu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:17 PM John R Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We would like to close this ticket by Dec 15, two weeks from now, so
>>> short
>>> trenchant comments are welcome.
>>>
>>> Ticket #1 is about SPF alignment.  We need to replace references to 4408
>>> with 7408, ando clarify what if anything we do with SPF HELO checks if
>>> the MAIL FROM is null.  One possibility is to say only MAIL FROM SPF
>>> counts, if you want to align your bounces, sign them.  The other is to
>>> explicitly say that HELO alignment is OK on bounces.
>>>
>>
>> I have a slight preference for the first option.  HELO is too arbitrary
>> in the protocol for me to put much value in using it in any of these
>> systems.
>>
>> -MSK
>>
>
> +1
>
> Michael Hammer
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