When a topic is decided with consensus, it does not get reopened.    What
happened here?

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, 9:35 PM John R Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

> >> I hope you agree that .com is a domain.  The spec says that in order to
> >> discover the Organizational Domain for a domain, I can perform the DNS
> Tree
> >> Walk as needed for any of the domains in question.  That way, the
> domain in
> >> question, .com, is the Organizational Domain of itself.  That is wrong
> >> because .com is a PSD.
> >>
> >> Oh, perhaps "in question" refers to the three cases mentioned in the
> >> Section's intro?  It doesn't say so, it says a tree walk "might start"
> >> there, without excluding other possibilities.  "In question" can
> >> legitimately be understood to refer to any domain at hand.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, the parenthesized reinforcement "if present and
> authenticated"
> >> in a domain in the first shortcut casts a shadow on the requirement
> that all
> >> identifiers except From: must be authenticated —if that requirement
> were
> >> clear, there'd be no need to reinforce it. This corroborates the wrong
> >> interpretation.
> >
> > First, if .com had a DMARC record and .com sent mail, it could be both a
> PSD
> > for lower level domains and it's own organizational domain for itself,
> so
> > your conclusion is incorrect.  We have discussed this multiple times.  I
> > think we most recently used .gov.uk as a more realistic example.  I
> think we
> > have been through this more than once and we should not do it again.
> >
> > Second, your "Furthermore..." claim reads to me as because the text says
> the
> > identifier must be present and authenticated, it will make readers
> likely to
> > think that the opposite is true.  I think you should take a step back
> and
> > reconsider your suggestion as it doesn't seem at all logical to me.
>
> Scott is correct and I wish people would stop trying to reargue decisions
> we
> already made.
>
> Regards,
> John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
> Dummies",
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