On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 8:23 AM Andreas Niedermann <Andreas.Niedermann=
40armacom...@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> My question is at which time rfc8617 will move from the experimental
> cathegory...
>

Whenever the community decides it's mature enough to do so, and the energy
exists to do the work to advance it.

> Microsoft uses ARC and many customers moved to Office365. They interact
> with outbound.protection.outlook.com. Many messages from this source are
> modified and break even relaxed/relaxed DKIM cannonication. Thus email from
> this domain is blocked and cannot reach our customers. We use barracuda
> filters and wanted to request DMARC and ARC features. Barracuda tells us
> that they're not implementing because of the experimental status. Weird...
> it's in state experimental and all giants like Microsoft and Google are
> using it...
>
> Do you have some explaination?
>

It's a good thing, in my view, that large operators are getting
implementation and operational experience with ARC, especially if they're
willing to report that experience back to us as input to this working
group's future output.  If it breaks things, that too is good information
to have.

It's up to each operator to decide whether a status other than "Standards
Track" is a problem.  There's no rule one way or the other that binds the
industry.  It's more of a statement of how much experience, and thus
confidence, the community has in the specification, and with what level of
rigor it was developed and reviewed.  People can make their own decisions
based on that.

-MSK
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