On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 12:29 PM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your solution is straightforward, but I am not sold.
>
> DMARC PASS means that the message is free of author impersonation.  This
> can only be true if all authors are verifiable and verified.
>

This is absolutely not true. An attacker can use homoglyphs, cousin domains
and other means of impersonating a sender. An attacker can impersonate a
sender within the same domain and DMARC will happily give a pass because
the right hand side of the from address matches. Author != sending domain.
DMARC only addresses direct domain impersonation.

>
> What do you dislike about PERMERROR?  My SPF algorithm continues
> evaluating on PERMERROR and returns both the error and the fallback
> result.   This is not standard but it is within my freedom of control.
>
> Similarly, an evaluator could apply a fallback DMARC solution after
> PERMERROR caused by a multi-From message, if they want.  But it is not our
> role to ensure acceptance of an identifier that cannot be verified.
>  Verification is established at the domain level.   Multi-from
> authorization is established at the individual level.   This is the mailing
> list problem redux.  The mailing list is authorized by an individual
> subscriber, but individual authorizations cannot be proven.
>
> DF
>

Michael Hammer
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