On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:09:02 PM EDT Mark Alley wrote:
> On 5/7/2024 7:00 PM, Dotzero wrote:
> > https://www.ic3.gov/Media/News/2024/240502.pdf
> > 
> > This was released this past week by the FBI. Although we are in last
> > call, I have to wonder if a) the attack itself, and/or b) the
> > government recommendations regarding policy might impact DMARCbis in
> > any manner. I've only just started thinking about the attack itself
> > and potential implications.
> > 
> > Michael Hammer
> 
> While the subject is interesting, in my eyes, Business Email Compromise
> (BEC), and a non-preferential DMARC policy disposition published by the
> spoofed domain owner aren't an issue with the DMARC mechanism itself.
> The receiving mail system did exactly what the domain owner requested
> with p=none, no disposition was taken on email(s) failing DMARC.
> 
>  From an alternate point of view, one might consider how this policy
> could be more broadly "exploitable" as a side effect now that the
> internet email ecosystem is inundated with p=none DMARC records by
> domain owners just doing the bare minimum to meet ESP sender
> requirements, but that's still not a problem with DMARC itself.
> 
> Addressing this issue - perusing Section 5.5.6, is there anything else
> we could add that would be acceptable language in an Standards track
> document to encourage urgency behind a transitory state of p=none use by
> domain owners? Would that even make sense to do? (Legitimate question
> for the WG)

I don't think the claim that p=none is "transitory" is at all generally 
correct.  It will be in some cases and not others.

Scott K


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