Yeah that sounds right...

I'm not 100% sure how it all works on my motherboard coz it has a built in
RAID controller and seperate IDE channels etc...
(Although obviously it still runs on a normal PCI bus..)


All I know is that I ran it through Sisoft Sandra 2001 (Not the most
accurate of benchmarks, I know!) and although I can't remember the exact
performance rating, the comparative graphs went something like :

My Drive : ===============================================================
UDMA 66  : ==============
UDMA 33  : ======

When I see things like that, the Geeky desire to learn about the hows and
whys dissapears! Don't really need to tweak it!

Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: ph. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 December 2001 15:12
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Computer Check: Need your advice


quick correction, i said PCI max sustained transfer rate is 132Mb/s which
should have been 132MB/s (ie. bytes not bits).

so (theoretically) a PCI bus at 132MB/s should be able to cope with a UDMA
drive of 100MB/s. bear in mind that you are unlikely to achieve the 100MB/s
because the bottleneck here will likely be the drive, and the max transfer
rate will only be reached in bursts (for a single drive). having a large
cache helps to keep the bus busy. also (afaik) the 100MB/s is for all drives
in the chain (i'm not 100% certain on that tho), so the bandwidth will be
shared between all the drives. thus having 2 drives in a simple RAID array
wont magically give you 200MB/s (because the IDE bus wont support that and
neither will your PCI bus). but it can speed up access over a single drive
if you're using striping as the controller can share out work between the
drives so they're both working at the same time.

ph.

> Ah yes, you're right again!! (I think!)
>
> So what's the point in having UDMA 100 Hard drives etc?
>
> Nick.
>
>
> p.s. The memory isn't DDR... I don't know exactly how or why the memory
> speed is doubled.. But it is!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ph. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 December 2001 14:55
> To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Computer Check: Need your advice
>
>
> that'll be memory bus speed (266MHz effective). pci bus is only ever 33MHz
> (unless you overclock it but even then you wont get it over 40MHz afaik).
if
>
> your controller is on the IDE bus then its maximum sustained bandwidth
must
> be 33MHz * 4 (32 bit bus) or * 8 (for servers with 64 bit PCI). which 132
> Mb/s maximum transfers for all devices on the PCI bus. AGP is a separate
bus
> and runs at 66MHz standard so shouldnt interfere with PCI bus transfers.
>
> as for the 266 speed of your memory bus, that'll be it sending on the rise
> and fall of the clock signal so you get twice the transfer rate (ie. DDR
for
>
> Double Data Rate).
>
> ph.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick Lankester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:50 PM
> Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Computer Check: Need your advice
>
>
> > Yeah, the bus speed on my MB is 266... (it's an Abit KT7A RAID).. It's
> > actually 133 but it uses some kind of fruity technology to double it....
> >
> > I don't see why that would be a requirement to get 200 out of your hard
> > disks though?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Gover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 10 December 2001 14:47
> > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Computer Check: Need your advice
> >
> >
> > > Not only does this double (or more) the total bandwidth between the PC
> and
> > > Hard drive (eg. 2x ATA100 EIDE Hard drives on a RAID array will give a
> > total
> > > transfer speed of 200mhz!),
> >
> > Only if you have a motherboard with a 266MHZ PCI bus.. are they out yet?
> >
> > > I've just setup a 2 disk array using IBM Deskstar 60's (7200rpm
> ATA100)..
> > > And the speed is insane!!!
> >
> > At least you didnt use 75 GXP's :)
> >
> > > I don't know if you can do a similar thing with SCSI but if you could
it
> > > would (I guess) be a little faster still (not that you'd probably need
> > > it!)..
> >
> > Yeah you can do RAID with SCSI.
> >
> > -dave
> >
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