Hi Aw, I know all this, but dubs, they're just part of the scene, its the warm laquer, its their temporary nature, the history...I know CDs are a lot less hassle, but somethings are sacred...
Cheers Dan PS - Winterman - i use elevators everyday mon -----Original Message----- From: Hustler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 February 2002 09:17 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon I've seen Optical some years back, on a Friday afternoon at music house, with a handful of DATS waiting to get dubs pressed up, looking pretty unimpressed. I think this waiting around *may* have something to do with his decision to use CDRs. OK, plates do have a warmth to them and a better bottom end, but using CDRs means you can finish a mix an hour before you play out, record it to CDR (without the engineer telling you he won't make it any louder, cuz it'll blow his needle, or without worrying about the plate getting f*cked up) it'll last longer and be more durable. He doesn't premix a whole set on CDR by the way. I still prefer dubs myself though. It's the smell of warm lacquer... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon > Hi > > > Slightly OT, but no wonder his mixing is a touch shaky....Its not the done > thing is it, mixing d+b using drinks coasters...10inch dubs give you a warm > sense of knowing that everythings alright in the world, that contained on > that dub is a blinding tune and anyone in possession of it knows what their > doing (hope i don't see Grooverider or Bukem turning up with a small suede > wallet of CDs)...dunno, but premix CDs sound a bit like money for old > rope...hope the ticket prices reflect the lack of effort made... > > Laters > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 28 February 2002 07:22 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon > > > So that's why Optical doesn't need a pissplate (sorry for > those who missed that thread). He obviously pre-mixes his > sets at home ;-). But seriously, I'd be interested at how > many/few people do this, when you look at the cost of > putting out dub plates. It certainly seems though that > you're not taken seriously unless you're giving out > plates... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthias Nolte > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 28 February 2002 15:00 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon > > > > Is he actually playing CDs then?? > > Mat/Vertecs > > Trajche Petrushevski wrote: > > > Optical does it because it's much cheaper that way... > > The dubs sounding bad is just an excuse.. :o) > > > > Respekt, > > http://www.mp3.com/GameOver > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:40 PM > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon > > > > > > > > interesting what Shimon says about dubs sounding so bad, > > > that's probably why Optical prefers burning them on CD > nowadays (or so > > I've been said) > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 20:46, Jurgen Baute wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ok, thanx, I just noticed is was on the front page > *LOL* :) > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 19:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/interviews/Shimon-Feb2002/ > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jurgen Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 26 February 2002 19:41 > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you still have a link to that? > > > > > I can't find it amoungst the interviews. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 10:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody read the interview with Shimon on the > d'n'b > > > > > > arena site? He comes up with some pretty > intersting > > > > > points > > > > > > about cleaning up your files, and making rooom for > sounds > > > > > to > > > > > > give the biggest impact on the dance floor. Well > worth > > > > > > reading! > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: 26 February 2002 04:07 > > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > digital clipping leads to audible "crackling"... > but if > > > > > you > > > > > > clip only every > > > > > > once in a while, say on a snare, that's fine > because it > > > > > > probably won't > > > > > > change the sound as much, but try clipping often > on bass > > > > > and > > > > > > it's horrible. > > > > > > and normalizing won't throw off any eq'ing or > anything > > > > > else > > > > > > you do, it just > > > > > > scans your sound file, determines what the loudest > peak > > > > > is, > > > > > > and then will > > > > > > boost the entire file to whatever level you > specify (if > > > > > the > > > > > > loudest it goes > > > > > > is -5.2 peak db, and you normalize to 0 db, it'll > > > > > > essentially turn up the > > > > > > entire file by 5.2 db). and commercial releases > are much > > > > > > louder than things > > > > > > we release because... they're commercial - people > with > > > > > huge > > > > > > racks of > > > > > > tube/analog equipment get paid to work on the > tracks until > > > > > > they're loud as > > > > > > hell without clipping. > > > > > > > > > > > > keep at it. frequent clipping's bad, normalizing > isn't, > > > > > and > > > > > > one day we'll > > > > > > get loud enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List > > > > > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _________ > > > > > > This message has been checked for all known > viruses by > > > > > UUNET > > > > > > delivered > > > > > > through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. 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