to be fair... I think you're generalizing a bit regarding modern production technique...
lots of heads i talk to are becoming more conscious about really letting their waveforms breathe so they're careful with what they do with compression and finalizing. i still come away from reading this feeling like you hold "cleaner" production technique in contempt somehow... am i mistaken? what's wrong with wanting things to sound good on a nice phat sound system and not have your ears bleed? hehe. just trying to get my head around your perspective a little bit so i don't misunderstand you. respect. :) ~a > -----Original Message----- > From: llllllllll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:32 AM > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Old Skool Vibes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Norman" > > > >Hey IIIIIIIIIIIIII > > Heya Dan > > >Nice post! > > Thx > > >Do you know the names of any tunes that were made like that? > If i have any of them at home it would be cool to give them a listen. > --- > > Couldn't tell you most of the names, I just listen'd and nodded > to the tunes > plus it was a long time and toooo many spliffs ago, but anything > that sounds > ruff and crunchy with clipping distortion, usually on snares and the bass > with quiet and loud bits (Champion sound, Here come the drums). > Nowadays its > all about the production, eq'd, squished up with no dynamics, and has to > have a mixable start, middle and end, back then it was evolving > with hardly > any rules at all, so anyone could create a tune and as long as it was > 150-170 bpm with drums, bass and energy. I clearly remember being in some > dark club with a head full of weed when Egyptian empire's "Horn track" > dropped and I fell over, so I tried to make tunes that had that > same effect > instead of copying their style and sounding like them, its about > feeling it, > not about the eq on the hi hats. > > The first couple of tunes some artists put out were done cheaply > (Doc Scott, > Acen, Rufige cru, 4 hero, Origin unknown, Dead dread, Shy FX), as > to be able > to have the time you probably had to be on the dole and pay for your > equipment (or teef it). Plus we nicked our samples off other tunes so they > already had compression to start with. It's well known that > Origin unknown's > "Valley of the shadows" was made using the samples from the first Future > music magazine cover disc and Mickey Finn's "ruff/some justice" > was done on > the Amiga using samples, so no compression there until mastering. > > Ignorence is bliss but knowledge can be a millstone around your > neck and if > you want to be noticed then you will have to break some of the rules that > are present in DnB today, as the noticeable artists do, so bringing a new > sound to the scene. One of those rules to be broken is heavy > compression on > everything, leave something for the mastering engineer to > process, they are > much better than you are at mastering. > > It's up to you how you make your tunes, but I am relying on you > all to keep > the scene alive coz I did my bit and seeing my old tunes being swapped on > kazza makes me think I made a little contribution to DnB. > > "Whats your style?, my style is the art of jumping on the bandwagon" > > > --- > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
